44% of USians think Christ Will Be Back in 50 years

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by PLATO
So many interesting posts...

1st) Real Christians . . .

. . . are anyone who call themselves Christians. You people are more sectarian than communists. At least I don't pretend that Maoists and Stalinists aren't "real" communists. I may think they're wrong about many things and think they give the rest of us a bad name, but I accept their claim. The same goes for Christians.

PLATO, the arrorgance of some Christians astounds me. Somehow, there seems to be this assumption that if a person isn't a Chsitian, they never were. There is such a thing as apostasy, i.e., leaving the faith. Most atheists do not start out atheists, but started out Christians and left the faith. I'm rather rare in that I started out an atheist, became a Christian, then became an atheist again.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by CyberShy
Most people only care about themselves.

I would suggest that even for most of the people you know, this statement is untrue. One only needs to look at the world wide reaction to the Christmas tsunamis to see how untrue this statement is.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Heresson
I don't think condemnation of homosexual practices is essential in Christianity.
Bah, look at episcopal church...

Especially since the part of the New Testment supposedly banning it comes from the rather suspect Timothy sections, which many, if not most, scholars agree were not written by Paul.

BTW, this is also the part of the New Testament which says it's okay to have slaves. We don't agree with that anymore, now, do we.

edit: spelling fix

[GePap]

Re: Re: 44% of USians think Christ Will Be Back in 50 years

Originally posted by The diplomat


It is high likely that Christ will be back in the next 50 years. I believe Christ will return in the next 20 years.

Good for you. And if he is not back, what does that say about your beliefs?

I find Monotheists so conceited and megalomaniacall- I mean, to have the gaul to think that if a conscious creator to the universe exists it gives a damn about your actions or morals- or even more hubristic, that you are in his image!? The creator makes an entire Universe, and he is wasting his time on the actions of insignificant collections of cells inhabiting the few top miles of a planet orbiting an average star in the edge of an average galaxy?

Man, how vain is that?

[Jon Miller]

we are sentient

and He is a loving God

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

He has the capicity and does love everything

from the tiny sparrow, to some other really cool being on some other planet

Jon miller

[Jon Miller]

Re: Re: Re: 44% of USians think Christ Will Be Back in 50 years

Originally posted by GePap


Good for you. And if he is not back, what does that say about your beliefs?

What do you think it says about his beleifs?

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Especially since the part of the New Testment supposedly banning it comes from the rather suspect Timothy sections, which many, if not most, scholars agree were not written by Paul.

BTW, this is also the part of the New Testament which says it's okay to have slaves. We don't agree with that naymore, now, do we.

Considering it is also proscribed in the OT I think it likely that it is the result of sin being in this earth. However, everyone has sin and God leads in different ways so I think that someones homosexuality is between them and God. Also, definitely we should allow people to make that decision, we should minimize the number of decisions we legislate.

Jon Miller

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by CyberShy


You're most obviously new to this planet!
Most people only care about themselves.

Your cynicism, while touching, is unfounded.

[lord of the mark]

"Rabbi Yochanan ben Zakkai used to say: "If there is a plant in your hand when they say to you: 'Behold, the Moshiach!'-- go and plant the seedling, and afterward go out to greet him.""


IE dont STOP doing things to make the world better on the assumption that the messiah is imminent.

NOTE WELL - this famous saying is found on websites belonging to Chabad, the branch of Judaism that most aggressively suggests that the Messiah is imminent. Even THEY insist on continued prudence.

[Sprayber]

The only real purpose of commenting on this thread is to point out how stupid it is to use USians. I see it and I know the people using it think that they are clever somehow but they really aren't. Sorry che but that's all that is really worth mentioning in this thread. It's just another thread for everyone to attack and make fun of other people. I'd expect more from you but this is poly after all and that's what most of the people are on here for. To attack people they claim as less than them so that their ****ed up real life doesn't seem as bad.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by CyberShy
Maarten Luther, the first reformer, said: "If I knew Christ was coming today, I would plant an appletree today." in other words, the christian doctrine is: Expect Christ to come today, life like Christ could wait another 2000 years.

MLK Jr. was a prophet? That's a new one.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
Considering it is also proscribed in the OT.

So is eating shrimp or cheeseburgers. The rules changed with the NT, so the fact that something was proscribed in the OT isn't necessarily a valid reason for continuing to proscribe it.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Kidicious
MLK Jr. was a prophet?

You know Martin Luther King was named after Martin Luther, the founder of Protestantism, right?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Sprayber
The only real purpose of commenting on this thread is to point out how stupid it is to use USians. I see it and I know the people using it think that they are clever somehow but they really aren't. Sorry che but that's all that is really worth mentioning in this thread. It's just another thread for everyone to attack and make fun of other people. I'd expect more from you but this is poly after all and that's what most of the people are on here for. To attack people they claim as less than them so that their ****ed up real life doesn't seem as bad.

I think the oppurtunity to quote R. Yochanan Ben Zakkai is always a good excuse for commenting on a thread

R. Yochanan Ben Zakkai
R. Jose the Gallilean
R. Yehuda haNasi

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