World Food Reserves Under 70 Days

[Pekka]

I have food for about...... well I have ketchup. I guess I can eat that few days.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by JohnT
I don't want to belabor the obvious, but food reserves cannot be too high or else the stuff would spoil.

What is the amount of food reserves that you have in your house? 3 days? A week?

Panicked yet?

Things like rice, pasta and canned food is still edible after decades. When I was in the military, we got food that was stamped "Produced 1965" and it was just fine (if you can stand the flatula it produces)

[child of Thor]

I've been learning to live of the land/grow my own food etc for ages now. With the right set-up i could probably feed my close friends/family if needed, in theory.

Could i stop people with guns stealing it? thats a different story, i'll need to address that somehow.

If we have a large enviromental shift then i guess its the guys with guns that would last longer, but it might not be for much longer?

I was just remined of one of the Mad Max films - i'd be the guy who gets his hard won produce stolen by thugs! damnit

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by child of Thor
I've been learning to live of the land/grow my own food etc for ages now. With the right set-up i could probably feed my close friends/family if needed, in theory.

How do you grow food in a volcano winter? It may be dark and cold, 24 hours a day for 2-3 years.

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by Pekka
I have food for about...... well I have ketchup. I guess I can eat that few days.

Hmmm, I've got a cat. We should team up.

[Whoha]

We pay people not to grow food in the US.

[Mr. Harley]

Finally found a link on the Nuclear Autumn info.

groups.msn.com/JuntoSocietyAdults/sciencebits.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=77&LastModified=4675401964186185659

In a 1990 article in Science, Sagan and his original coauthors admitted that their initial temperature estimates were wrong. They concluded that an all-out nuclear war could reduce average temperatures at most by 36 degrees Fahrenheit in northern climes. The chilling effect, in other words, would be more of a nuclear autumn.

It would really mangle agricultural production, especially at the wrong time of year. Plus I don't have mukluks.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie


Things like rice, pasta and canned food is still edible after decades. When I was in the military, we got food that was stamped "Produced 1965" and it was just fine (if you can stand the flatula it produces)

And you made military service in '66?

He's right actually. My brother made military service a couple of years ago, and they found some edible peas soup from the '30s.

And then there was that still drinkable wine they fished up from the wreck of a Classical Greek ship.

[Odin]

I hunt, so I know where to get food.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie


How do you grow food in a volcano winter? It may be dark and cold, 24 hours a day for 2-3 years.

this to be worse than 1816, when the eruption of Tambura caused the "year with no summer"? IIUC harvests in New England, upstate NY, and eastern Canada were wiped out (and I assume in northern europe as well) but harvests still came in the mid atlantic and southern states, and there was no famine in either North America or northwestern Europe (edit - except in Ireland) (though there WERE riots in France).

[lord of the mark]

I assume in conditions of one or more skipped global harvests, there would be a mass slaughter of livestock herds (which cant be fed anyway, and are far too large to live off pasturage only) This sudden supply of meat would be available, as well as the grain reserves, and peoples personal supplies.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Last Conformist

And you made military service in '66?

1987

[Flubber]

If natural gas and electricity for heating remained available, people could grow some stuff inside-- it wouldn't be much but added to the meat kill-off, it should be ok.

a 36 degree farenheit drop would wipe out canadian agriculture but the mid- southern US might be viable--

I could see a big market for fish ( the ocean temperature hardly changes and should not change quickly so it might be able to provide a major food source in the years until the temperature change was felt

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Flubber
. . . and I don't think ANYONE in Canada stocks only 3 days food-- Anyone that has would probably have gotten a bit hungry during something as routine as a major blizzard

I don't think we've had a blizzard that put roads out of comission for more than six hours here in suburban Toronto in the past ten years.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by JohnT
I don't want to belabor the obvious, but food reserves cannot be too high or else the stuff would spoil.

What is the amount of food reserves that you have in your house? 3 days? A week?

Panicked yet?

I ran out of milk this weekend. I think the world is ending.