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  • #241
    Originally posted by Berzerker


    Fit to govern is not the same as having the ability to overthrow Saddam, this election was a result of the US, the former remains to be seen. Therefore it is illogical to say the US is an impediment, or a greater impediment, to achieving democracy in Iraq when it is instrumental.



    All of which has nothing to do with what you said.
    I'm saying the Iraqis are instrumental. The US was instrumental in taking out Saddam, after that it's been all downhill.
    "On this ship you'll refer to me as idiot, not you captain!"
    - Lone Star

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    • #242
      Everybody was instrumental in this who contributed money, time, sweat, blood, or votes. I was instrumental in this in a small way -- about $2,000 small, I guess. So was Berzerker, although he might have not liked the price tag. Jaakko wasn't instrumental in this, as far as I know.
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #243
        Originally posted by DanS
        Everybody was instrumental in this who contributed money, time, sweat, blood, or votes. I was instrumental in this in small way. So was Berzerker, although he might have not liked the price tag. Jaakko wasn't instrumental in this, as far as I know.
        Woohoo. Aren't you the hero.

        I think I'll just let the track record of US failure in Iraqi speak for itself, from the delusional optimism of early days to the return of Vietnam-esque body count politics in 2004.
        "On this ship you'll refer to me as idiot, not you captain!"
        - Lone Star

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        • #244
          Aren't you the hero.
          Looking at the genuine joy expressed by the majority in Iraq at voting, I don't feel half bad.

          In fact, I'm feeling a little smug right now.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #245
            Originally posted by DanS


            Looking at the genuine joy expressed by the majority in Iraq at voting, I don't feel half bad.
            I doubt they feel that much gratitude towards the Americans.
            "On this ship you'll refer to me as idiot, not you captain!"
            - Lone Star

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            • #246
              Who cares?
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #247
                Originally posted by DanS




                Are you ever going to present a coherent argument?
                Not as of yet. Maybe you should give him a few more posts.
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                • #248
                  Originally posted by DanS
                  Who cares?
                  Are you kidding? It's not going to be long until you'll start talking about the US saving the Iraqis' asses.
                  "On this ship you'll refer to me as idiot, not you captain!"
                  - Lone Star

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                  • #249
                    There you go again with your hypotheticals. But before we begin, let's be clear that Jaakko wasn't saving anybody's ass in any manner whatsoever.
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #250
                      Falafel eating surrender monkeys, what was it?
                      "On this ship you'll refer to me as idiot, not you captain!"
                      - Lone Star

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                      • #251
                        I doubt they feel that much gratitude towards the Americans.
                        Depends on if you're a Sunni or Kurd or Shi'ite. Considering the vast majority under Saddam got screwed and now they have some actual control over their destiny, I suspect your assertion is ridiculous.

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                        • #252
                          Stop calling the French names!
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #253
                            Originally posted by DanS
                            Stop calling the French names!
                            I'm just saying. Anyway, it's time I get going. It was fun trading insults with you.
                            "On this ship you'll refer to me as idiot, not you captain!"
                            - Lone Star

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                            • #254
                              You successfully insulted me? Where?
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                              • #255
                                Originally posted by DanS
                                You successfully insulted me? Where?
                                Well, quips at any rate.
                                "On this ship you'll refer to me as idiot, not you captain!"
                                - Lone Star

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