Are You Ready for Some Football - Super Bowl XXXIX

[OzzyKP]

Pssh, why Chicago? Their D wasn't anything exceptional. Its Washington that had the best defense in the NFC this year:

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2004/regular?sort_col_1=4

[Imran Siddiqui]

Cause Ned's been overrating the Chicago D all year.

[OzzyKP]

Ah, alright. According to those stats, Chicago had just a touch better defense than Detroit, and the worst offense in the entire league.

[OzzyKP]

Is rushing considered when doing QB ratings? If not, i can't understand why Vick has a better rating than Harrington.

Player Team G Att Att/G Cmp Pct Yds Yds/G Lng TDs Int Sck SckY Rate
Michael Vick ATL 15 321 21.4 181 56.4 2313 154.2 62 14 12 46 266 78.1
Joey Harrington DET 16 489 30.6 274 56.0 3047 190.4 62 19 12 36 196 77.5

[Sava]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
Ah, alright. According to those stats, Chicago had just a touch better defense than Detroit, and the worst offense in the entire league.

Are you forgetting that Chicago was decimated by injuries? Urlacher, Tillman, and Mike Brown were all out for extended periods. Chicago's D is vastly underrated... and next year, with people healthy, they have enormous depth considering most of the backups and 2nd stringers got loads of playing time this year.

The offense though... well I got nothing for you there. Rex Grossman might be healthy next year, and we have a new off. coordinator. But I don't know how much of a difference that will be.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Is rushing considered when doing QB ratings?

No. They are QB passing ratings.

Oh, and Urlacher is overrated. When Ted Washington was gone, he was exposed.

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Is rushing considered when doing QB ratings?

No. They are QB passing ratings.

Then, based on the above stats, why is Vick higher than Harrington when Harrington had more yards, more yards per game, more touchdowns, less sacks, and comparable completion percentages?

[Imran Siddiqui]

http://www.nfl.com/news/981202qbrate.html

Vick had a slightly better completion percentage, a better yards per attempt, and a better TD per attempt percentage. He did have a higher INT per attempt percentage though.

[OzzyKP]

Ah, so that's how they do it. Hmmm... eh.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Cause Ned's been overrating the Chicago D all year.

The full strength defense was impressive. Then Brown gets hurt. Down goes No. 54. The injuries pile up.

When they won games, it was the defense that won it for them.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Ned
When they won games, it was the defense that won it for them.

It sure as hell wasn't the offense that won them any games

[Brundlefly]

So the postscript to the Super Bowl, at least for Philly fans, turns out to be that McNabb was physically sick for the last 5 minutes of the game and this contributed to his poor play and the clock mismanagement during that part of the game.. Teammates on the field during that time have reported that he was having dry heaves and appeared to have been in a trance leading to some speculation that he may have sustained a concussion at some point during the game. Mitchell had to call the play in the huddle at one point because McNabb was incoherent. Philly media is reporting all of this today.

[Imran Siddiqui]

When they won games, it was the defense that won it for them.

Yeah, all 5 of them . We aren't talking about a playoff team here.

[OzzyKP]

Philly is just looking for excuses.

[Ming]

Yep... media spin... It's easier to admit that he was "sick" then admit they just screwed up.