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A peace treaty with me now would involve very harsh terms, are you sure you want to hear those? 
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Well if nothing else Henrik us spectators would like to hear it.
*"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- BetaComment
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Nah... let's keep fighting!
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Too much love around 
please forget about my sig guys 
it has nothing to do with this game
Barbuda and Granada retaken btw
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I have more of France than you have of New England, and more troops coming over the Channel this move. Paris might be out of my reach, but there's lots of France left!Comment
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Wow, that French victory sure came cheap! I seem to have lost 3 Marines, 6 Grenadiers, 1 Dragoon, 1 Horse Artillery and 3 Musketeers, all for 3 French Grenadiers and 2 French Dragoons!
This is fortified, on a hill, in a fort! Many of them veteran, almost all of them at 100% strength. Plus 2 Horse Artillery and 2 Marines that were in the open.
Well, if that sort of army can't defend itself against attack in such a great position without causing a few more casualties, I don't know how I should play it anymore! I'm not suggesting anything unfair, but it seems the attacker gets huge bonuses (although my troops only seem to get them dependably when they are Boarding Parties!
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You guys are more experienced MP than I am. Is that normal? If so, I will have to edit a version of the rules.txt in 3.2 and 4.0 so the MP games are biased towards the defender a bit more, just to make the game balanced.
Anyway, no action on the English side this year.Comment
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IMHO I was very lucky John, that said, there are bonuses for the attackers in MP (but not THAT substantial, when it comes down to it, luck can be very decisive, I couldn't believe I won some of those battles myself).
Also though they don't show in the casualty line (becouse they wheren't lost) I had heavy artillery as well.
Perhaps you underestimated the size of the Garrison of Paris?
I've had 20+ grenadiers there all along (but haven't dared attack before more where vets for the reasons you mention).No Fighting here, this is the war room!Comment
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Fair enough Henrik. I thought afterwards that you might have had lots of seige artillery that didn't show up.
Oh well, hanging around outside Paris for so long was always risky. Because I didn't have this war planned in advance, I never had enough heavy guns to take Paris, it being on a river....Comment
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Bump for chris.No Fighting here, this is the war room!Comment
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John, it's an old unwritten rule that there is no defense in MP, only offense.
The game works well enough, it's pretty balenced for three players, I think.
I'm glad it's almost over though, this was a LONG game, and I am a bit tired of it at this point.
Nothing much to report game wise, another vineyard destroyed.
About the war, I think it was foolhardy to launch a war against a superior power, let alone two such nations.
Spain is by far the largest power, I think we can safely say Spain is the winner, Mannolo acomplished more then his historical counterparts, he kept the Spainish empire strong and united, not a bad feat.
France has also exceded historical expectations, they have managed a powerful enpire in the Americas, and held off Britain.
England also did well, but the two wars you began both ended badly, in niether case were your forces well prepared.I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd
i'm an ignorant greek...MarkGComment
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This is not over yet, the French armies have another ace up thier sleeve
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I agree that - barring a miracle over the next 18 turns- England could not be considered the winner!
I would actually say that the contest was between Spain and Holland for the overall winner, because Manolo did all that you say (without our strong Grenadier unit, with a lesser Dragoon, and no Jesuit or Marine), but Holland has a huge New World empire that in 1780 she had lost totally IRL. And with a Government form that hindered her war options.
So far, I rate Spain and Holland equal first, France third, and England last. France has a big empire too, but needs to recover her borders in Europe if she is to rival you guys (which she may do by 1800, of course).
Having said that, I think the reason Spain and Holland have done so well was that they avoided major war. Spain didn't need those strong military units fighting only the Independents and AI-controlled Natives. OK, Spain has been in conflict, but only mildly, and has gained nicely each time. (Wll done, Manolo - the mark of a rational warrior!)
France and England have been in a state of outright war, preparation for war or direct rivalry for pretty much the entire game. This has wasted a vast amount of time and treasure - but has been huge fun!
OK, I am relieved too that the game is coming to a close soon. It will have been nearly 2 years! But it has been really worthwhile, and a steep learning curve for me for MP - which I hope will benefit Colonies 3.2x and 4.x.
...and did I mention that it's been huge fun?
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I agree this has been one of the best pbems I've played in
And I also agree that currently Holland and Spain stands as the winners, however there are still turns left so I think that it might be a little early to start deciding who the winners might be...
The French turn will be delayed untill she can meet with Spain online.No Fighting here, this is the war room!Comment
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Sounds ominous for England! Oh, well, so perish all warmongers!
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Chris,
That may be true. But Johnnie intends to rewrite the (unwritten) rules! If that's logically possibleJohn, it's an old unwritten rule that there is no defense in MP, only offense.
Colonies IV will have two rules.txt files, one for MP. Defence WILL be an option, even with the unstackable terrain.Comment
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