Fiera über alles!

[Fiera]

Originally posted by BeBro


Good idea What other cities do you visit (except Erlangen)? But I´m probably away soon, I also have holidays next week...

I haven't any fixed plans yet. I think you live in Berlin, don't you? I can go there, sure. Also, Í'd like to visit Kassel and Dresden, but would be going to anywhere else you suggested.

Perhaps you'd like to come to Nuremberg so we can arrange a meeting along with Stefan (and maybe other German Apolytoners too...)

[Jay Bee]

Hey guys, I think you must advertise your plans in the off topic section. That way people will see that not only the members of the Brit Brat Pack gather together

BTW, What does 'über alles' mean? I must have seen it hundreds of times .

[Prometeus]

Originally posted by Jay Bee
BTW, What does 'über alles' mean? I must have seen it hundreds of times .

supra a totu chantos...

*Prom takes a look to photos...*

Allora, Fiera, a quando le nozze?

[Fiera]

Originally posted by Jay Bee
Hey guys, I think you must advertise your plans in the off topic section. That way people will see that not only the members of the Brit Brat Pack gather together

Well, if the thing goes ahead, I willcertainly post about it at the OT. And I do hope that it goes ahead.

BTW, What does 'über alles' mean? I must have seen it hundreds of times .

"Sobre todo", "sobre todas las cosas", también "por encima de todas las cosas".

"Deutschland über alles" es una vieja canción patriótica alemana... o quizá sea el propio himno alemán?

[Prometeus]

German hymn...

La seconda che hai detto.

[Jay Bee]

Originally posted by Fiera

"Sobre todo", "sobre todas las cosas", también "por encima de todas las cosas".

"Deutschland über alles" es una vieja canción patriótica alemana... o quizá sea el propio himno alemán?

De ahi es de donde conocia el überalles ese


Now that I think about it, über, over, alles, all .... pretty similar. Guess Englsih must be a big plus when you wanna learn Tedesco

[Fiera]

Originally posted by Prometeus

*Prom takes a look to photos...*

Allora, Fiera, a quando le nozze?

Hmm... I think I'll actually become an Emperor before we get maried...

[Fiera]

Re: German hymn...

Originally posted by Prometeus
La seconda che hai detto.

Grazie mille!

[Fiera]

Originally posted by Jay Bee
Now that I think about it, über, over, alles, all .... pretty similar. Guess Englsih must be a big plus when you wanna learn Tedesco

Of course. The prepositions are very similar (in/in, auf/of, unter/under...), and some nouns too.

[Jay Bee]

Now that we are at it, I always thought that the GDR anthem was beautiful.

And btw, bummer I can't watch Heike Dreschler later tonite. Guess I will have to settle with Grit Breuer. Not the same though

[Prometeus]

Originally posted by Fiera


Hmm... I think I'll actually become an Emperor before we get maried...

Piglietela pure comoda... a pagare, sposarsi e morire si fa sempre a tempo! (ah, li proverbi de l'antichi! )

ah, li proverbi de l'antichi! --- try to guess where i'm now...

[Stefan Härtel]

Deutschland, Deutschland über alles is the beginning of the first verse of the Deutschlandlied, of which the third verse is Germany's present national anthem. After 1922 the first verse was used as the national anthem until 1945/49 when it was replaced by the third verse due to heavy misuse by the nazis. I personally think we should've introduced the former DDR-national anthem Auferstanden aus Ruinen when we had the chance to in 1990. Now we're still stickin' around with this old song of old ideals and antiquated views. The first verse in English would go something like this:
Germany, Germany above everything, above everything in the world
When it brotherly holds together
From the Maas (river in Holland) to the Memel (River in Lithunia)
From the Etsch (Adige, Italy) to the Belt (Denmark)
Germany, Germany, etc.

The thrid verse isn't much better, I think:

Unity and right and freedom for the German fatherland
Let us strive towards this, brotherly with heart and hand
Unity, and right and freedom are the pawn of luck
Flourish in the shine of this luck, flourish German fatherland

I never sing this, and fortunately, I never had to. This song is a hundred and fifty years old, goddamnit, we oughta get something that represents our real ideas in these days.

[Jay Bee]

...and although I profoundly admire Lance Armstrong, I was sad for Jan Ullrich.

[Fiera]

Originally posted by Jay Bee
Now that we are at it, I always thought that the GDR anthem was beautiful.

Well, I think that the music of the German anthem is quite beatiful too.

[Jay Bee]

So true, but the GDR anthem wins hands down. Stefan seems to agree with me too.

Can you believe there is foreign people who actually place the Spanish anthem among the top three ever?