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  • Advanced Hellenistic Era NES - Part 2

    Continuing from the Advanced Hellenistic Era NES - Part 1.

    Price List (numbers you get for 1 talent)
    (Upkeep is 10% of purchase costs)

    200 light infantrists (militia)
    - peasants drafted into the army
    - equipped with pitchforks, flails, clubs, bows and tools in general
    - no armour at all
    - good in desert and mountainous areas, bad vs. cavalry

    125 foot soldiers (regulars)
    - usual infantry regulars
    - equipped with spears, daggers, javalines, bows
    - lightly armoured (leather)
    - fast but vulnerable to cavalry; can evade heavy infantry

    70 horsemen (HORSES)
    - light cavalry
    - equipped with spears or swords
    - usually lightly armoured, leather shield or none at all
    - very fast, but vulnerable to spears (hoplites)

    80 hoplites [Athens, Sparta, Macedonia, Sicily, Bosporian Greek, Crete, Lydia] (COPPER)
    - heavy elite infantry
    - equipped with extremely long spears
    - heavily armoured
    - several lines deep formations; lethal to cavalry

    70 swordsmen (IRON)
    - heavy infantry
    - eqipped with swords or warblades
    - lightly armoured to ensure speed and freedom of movement
    - good allround warriors, though vulnerable to distance weapons

    70 legionaries [Rome] (IRON)
    - core of the Roman Legions
    - different troop types equipped with spears, javalines and short swords
    - good armour, metal shields
    - very disciplined and well-trained in a vast variety of tactics

    65 immortals [Persia] (IRON)
    - Persian elites, used as the royal guards
    - Mixed force including swordsmen, archers, javaliners, pikemen and camel riders

    65 Hetaires [Macedonia] (HORSES)
    - Macedonian Compagnion Cavalry
    - equipped with spears and swords
    - armoured and shielded
    - fearsome charge!

    55 camelriders [Persia, Egypt] (CAMELS)
    - heavy mounted troops
    - equipped with spears and bows
    - lightly armoured
    - inflict panick on horses, especially suited for desert operations

    25 war chariots [Persia, Egypt] (TIMBER)
    - horse-drawn armoured chariots
    - crew equipped with bows, javalines and spears
    - chariot equipped with scythes
    - very fast, deadly to infantry, needs flat terrain

    1 war elephant [Carthage, Persia] (ELEPHANTS)
    - trained elephants
    - crew equipped with bows or javalines
    - elephants may be armoured
    - cost double upkeep (20% of purchase cost instead of 10%)

    1 trireme (costs 3 Talents!!!) (TIMBER)
    - mighty ram-equipped warship, very maneuverable
    - can carry 100 troops (40 cavalry, 20 elephants, 20 chariots) at once

    RESSOURCES:

    Valuables (ressources generating talents by mining):
    copper, silver, gold, gems

    Foods (ressources increasing efficiency by 10% each):
    grain, fish, cattle

    Consumer goods (ressources increasing efficiency by 3% each):
    furs, dyes, fabrics, pottery, oil, ivory, paper, drugs, spices, silk, incense, flax, glasswares, marble, slaves, tea, honey, amber, tin, silver, gold, gems, copper, wine, salt

    Military goods (ressources increasing military effectiveness by 10% each):
    iron, copper, wine, salt, furs (meaning leather here)

    Strategic goods (ressources needed for training):
    timber [triremes, war chariots]
    horses [horsemen, hetaires]
    iron [swordsmen, immortals, legionaries]
    copper [hoplites]
    camels [camelriders]
    elephants [war elephants]
    Last edited by Micha; February 10, 2005, 15:12.
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  • #2
    Game Map - 270 b.c. (456 kB)

    --- updated ( Turn 14 ) ---

    PLAYER STATS (270 b.c.)

    Kingdom of Macedonia
    Ruler: Foolish Icarus
    Economy
    Efficiency: 99% [base +50, food +20, goods +36 , infra +14, dissent -1, multicultural -10, war -10]
    Income: 302 talents [305 talents * 0.99]
    - taxation : 206 talents (+9)
    - trade (exports) : 13 talents [salt (Egypt 5); horses (Egypt 4); wine (Egypt 4)]
    - agriculture : 50 talents
    - mines : 25 talents
    - Other Income : 11 talents [tourism]
    Expenses: 158 talents
    - upkeep (army): 64 talents
    - upkeep (navy): 32 talents
    - trade (imports) : 49 talents [spices (Persia 10); grain (BospGr 9); timber (Lydia 8); pottery (Lydia 6); copper (Persia 6); paper (Egypt 5); furs (Persia 5)]
    - Other Expenses : 13 talents [Piracy, peasant aid]
    Cash Flow: 144 talents per turn
    treasury: 0 talents
    Ressources: [fish, salt, iron, marble, horses, silver, gold, honey, wine, fabrics, (grain), (paper), (timber), (pottery), (spices), (furs), (copper)]
    Army
    Military Effectiveness: 113% [base +50, leadership +2, training +2, experience +10 (+5), morale -1, equipment +50 ]
    - "Alexander´s Army" - Cyrenaica - 4,091 Hetaires; 387 horsemen; 288 swordsmen; 8,065 hoplites; 3,366 foot soldiers; siege equipment [14]
    - "Macedonian Army" - Adrianopolis - 150 Hetaires; 12,000 foot soldiers
    - "Trapezunt Defence Force" - Trapezunt - 2,000 horsemen; 3,000 foot soldiers
    - "Attic Defence Force" - Athens - 7,500 hoplites; 1,000 swordsmen; 13,000 foot soldiers
    - "Expedition Force" - Herakleia - 500 hetaires; 500 hoplites; 6,000 foot soldiers
    - "Naval Force" - Macedonian Fleet - 85 foot soldiers
    - "Southern Guard" - Alexandrograd - 1,000 hoplites
    Navy
    - "Macedonian Battlefleet" - off Corinthos - 61 triremes
    - "Attic reserve fleet" - Aegian Sea - 35 triremes
    - "Pharos Fleet" - Aegian Sea - 11 triremes; 15 damaged triremes
    Notes
    Secret Police: Adequate
    Government: Kingdom with supreme leader and subject nobles

    Persian Empire
    Ruler: Bipolarbear
    Economy
    Efficiency: 75% [base +50, food +20, goods +48, infra +7, dissent -20 (+3), multicultural -10, war -10, civil war -10]
    Income: 411 talents [548 talents * 0.75]
    - taxation : 235 talents
    - trade (exports) : 81 talents [cattle (Egypt 10, Lydia 8); spices (Mac 10); tea (Rome 8); timber (Lydia 6); copper (Mac 6); furs (Mac 5); copper (Egypt 4); gold (Egypt 3); silver (Egypt 3); glass (Egypt 3); dyes (Egypt 3); drugs (Egypt 3); gems (Egypt 3); spices (Egypt 3); silk (Egypt 3)]
    - agriculture : 66 talents
    - mines : 3 talents
    - Other Income : 163 talents (+25) [Tributes]
    Expenses: 259 talents
    - upkeep (army): 122 talents
    - upkeep (navy): 13 talents
    - trade (imports) : 36 talents [grain (Egypt 12); spices (India 9), tea (India 7), silk (China 7), marble (Lydia 5); paper (Egypt 4), iron (Rome 4)]
    - Other Expenses : 88 talents (-2) [corruption, secret police]
    Cash Flow: 152 talents per turn
    treasury: 0 talents
    Ressources: [cattle, fish, fabrics, salt, gold, silver, copper, glasswares, dyes, oil, horses, furs, drugs, timber, gems, (spices), (tea), (silk), (paper), (grain), (iron), (marble)]
    Army
    Military Effectiveness: 60% [base +50, leadership -15, training +8, experience +6, morale -27, equipment +40]
    - "Phrygian Army" - Phrygia - 800 horsemen; 3,800 swordsmen; 4,000 foot soldiers
    - "Army of the West" - Sidon - 500 war chariots; 1,000 swordsmen; 2,995 horsemen; 15,122 foot soldiers, 500 light infantry
    - "Mesopotamian Army" - Babylon - 900 war chariots; 4,000 foot soldiers
    - "Eastern Army" - Persepolis - 1,000 war chariots; 4,000 horsemen; 6,000 foot soldiers
    - "Assyrian Army" - Aleppo - 2,000 swordsmen; 2,000 horsemen
    - "Armenian Army" - Melita - 2,000 horsemen
    - "Pisidian Loyalists" - Iconion - 500 war chariots; 2,000 horsemen; 6,000 foot soldiers
    - "Army of Cappadocia" - Mazaka - 3,000 horsemen
    - "Tarsos homeguards" - Tarsos - 1,500 horsemen; 1,000 swordsmen; 10,000 foot soldiers; 1,000 light infantry
    - "Army of Egypt" - Gaza - 2,880 war chariots; 877 immortals; 7,244 horsemen; 1,421 swordsmen; 7,740 foot soldiers
    - "Cypros garrison" - Salamis - 1,000 light infantry
    - "Jerusalem immortals" - Jerusalem - 775 immortals
    - "Lower Cappadocian Army" - Tyana - 500 war chariots
    - „Military Police“ - spread among the cities - 243 immortals
    Navy
    - "Persian Invasion Fleet" - Tyros - 43 triremes
    Notes
    Secret Police: Good
    Government: Multiple nations combined under the absolute rule of an emperor.
    - All subjugated provinces pay tributes!

    Sparta
    Ruler: NPC
    Economy
    Efficiency: 66% [base +50, food +10, goods +9, infra +5, dissent -8 ]
    Income: 96 talents [146 talents * 0.66]
    - taxation : 106 talents
    - trade (exports) : 5 talents [honey (Carthage 5)]
    - agriculture: 35 talents
    - mines : 0 talents
    - Other Income : 0 talents
    Expenses: 55 talents
    - upkeep (army): 37 talents
    - upkeep (navy): 12 talents
    - trade (imports) : 18 talents [grain (BospGr 6); iron (Rome 6); salt (Carthage 3); wine (Carthage 3)]
    - Other Expenses : 2 talents [Piracy]
    cash flow: 27 talents per turn
    treasury: 81 talents
    Ressources: [honey, (grain), (iron), (salt), (wine)]
    Army
    Military Effectiveness: 117% [base +50, leadership +8, training +6, experience +8 , morale +15, equipment +30 ]
    - "Spartan Elites" - Sparta - 19,548 hoplites; 5,662 swordsmen; 4,035 horsemen
    - "Rhodos Defence Force" - Rhodos - 2,000 foot soldiers
    Navy
    - "Spartan Fleet" - Argos - 40 triremes
    Notes
    Secret Police: Adequate
    Government: Alliance dominated by Sparta, limited suffrage consensus-democracy under a rigid code of law.
    - get 90 hoplites per talent

    Lydia
    Ruler: 1889
    Economy
    Efficiency: 89% [base +50, food +30, goods +21 , infra +5, dissent -7, multicultural -10]
    Income: 232 talents [261 talents * 0.89]
    - taxation : 197 talents
    - trade (exports) : 34 talents [timber (BospGr 6); pottery (Carthage 7; Macedonia 6; Egypt 4); marble (Persia 5, BospGr 3); fabrics (BospGr 3)]
    - agriculture : 20 talents
    - mines : 10 talents (+10)
    - Other Income : 0 talents
    Expenses: 123 talents
    - upkeep (army): 55 talents
    - upkeep (navy): 17 talents
    - trade (imports) : 48 talents [cattle (Persia 8); grain (BospGr 8); timber (Persia 6); copper (Carthage 6); iron (BospGr 6); fish (Carthage 5); oil (Rome 5); paper (Egypt 4)]
    - Other Expenses : 3 talents [Piracy]
    Cash Flow: 109 talents per turn
    treasury: 11 talents
    Ressources: [pottery, fabrics, marble, silver, (timber), (grain), (paper), (iron), (cattle), (fish), (copper), (oil)]
    Army
    Military Effectiveness: 86% [base +50, leadership +3, training +10 (+3), experience +0, morale +3, equipment +20]
    - "Lydian Army" - Sardes - 8,000 horsemen; 15,000 foot soldiers; 700 swordsmen
    - "Army of Milet" - Miletos - 3,500 hoplites; 6,000 foot soldiers
    - "Southern Army" - Aspendos - 5,000 horsemen; 3,000 hoplites; 5,000 foot soldiers
    - "Asia Minor Army" - Ephesos - 2,500 horsemen; 4,000 foot soldiers
    Navy
    - "Lydian Fleet" - Miletos - 57 triremes
    Notes
    Secret Police: Adequate
    Government: Kingdom

    Kingdom of Sicily
    Ruler: NPC
    Economy
    Efficiency: 38% [base +50, food +10, goods 0, infra +7, dissent -9, multicultural -10, war -10]
    Income: 48 talents[126 talents * 0.38]
    - taxation : 82 talents (-14)
    - trade (exports) : 0 talents
    - agriculture : 44 talents
    - mines : 0 talents
    - Other Income : 0 talents
    Expenses: 24 talents
    - upkeep (army): 19 talents
    - upkeep (navy): 0 talents
    - trade (imports) : 0 talents
    - Other Expenses : 5 talents [Piracy]
    Cash Flow: 24 talents per turn
    treasury: 13 talents
    Ressources: [grain]
    Army
    Military Effectiveness: 39% [base +50, leadership +0, training +1, experience +0 , morale -12 , equipment 0]
    - "Army of Sicilia" - Syracuse - 6,500 hoplites; 14,000 foot soldiers
    Navy
    Notes
    Secret Police: Adequate
    Government: Kingdom, occasional aristocratic councils

    Carthage
    Ruler: Lord Nuclear (aka Nuclear Master)
    Economy
    Efficiency: 68% [base +50, food +20, goods +39 , infra -12 , dissent -9, multicultural -10, war -10]
    Income: 180 talents [264 talents * 0.68]
    - taxation : 177 talents
    - trade (exports) : 27 talents [copper (Lydia 6); fish (Lydia 5); wine (Rome 4, Sparta 3); salt (Rome 4, Sparta 3); oil (BospGr 2)]
    - agriculture : 40 talents
    - mines : 20 talents
    - Other Income : 0 talents
    Expenses: 67 talents
    - upkeep (army): 37 talents
    - upkeep (navy): 0 talents
    - trade (imports) : 24 talents [iron (Rome 8); pottery (Lydia 7); honey (Sparta 5); fabrics (Rome 4)]
    - Other Expenses : 6 talents [corruption]
    Cash Flow: 113 talents per turn
    treasury: 0 talents
    Ressources: [elephants, grain, fish, wine, salt, paper, silver, copper, timber, oil, marble, ivory, dyes, slaves, (iron), (pottery), (honey), (fabrics)]
    Army
    Military Effectiveness: 78% [base +50, leadership 0 (-12); training +4, experience +4 , morale -20, equipment +40]
    - "Carthage Defence Force" - Carthage - 10,000 foot soldiers; 3,000 light infantry
    - "Hispania Army" - Carthago Nova - 4,000 light infantry
    - "Home Guard" - spread in core cities - 1,500 foot soldiers
    - „Invasion Defence Force“ - Cyrene - 20 war elephants; 2,100 horsemen; 1,400 swordsmen; 13,810 foot soldiers; 9,480 light infantry
    Navy
    Notes
    Secret Police: Basic
    Government: Oligarchy with magisterial rule

    Roman Empire
    Ruler: Laurentius
    Economy
    Efficiency: 65% [base +50, food 0 , goods +21, infra +17, dissent -3 (+1), multicultural -10, war -10]
    Income: 241 talents [370 talents * 0.65]
    - taxation : 281 talents (+24)
    - trade (exports) : 38 talents [iron (Egypt 8, Carthage 8, Sparta 6, Persia 4); oil (Lydia 5, Egypt 3); fabrics (Carthage 4)]
    - agriculture : 36 talents (+8)
    - mines : 0 talents
    - Other Income : 15 talents [tributes]
    Expenses: 100 talents
    - upkeep (army): 51 talents
    - upkeep (navy): 23 talents
    - trade (imports) : 20 talents [grain (Egypt 8); tea (Persia 8); wine (Carthage 4); salt (Carthage 4); paper (Egypt 4)]
    - Other Expenses : 6 talents [trade protection]
    Cash Flow: 141 talents per turn
    treasury: 0 talents
    Ressources: [iron, timber, marble, fabrics, wine, oil, (grain), (salt), (tea), (paper)]
    Army
    Military Effectiveness: 109% [base +50, leadership +1 (+3) , training +5, experience +25, morale -2 (+5), equipment +30]
    - "Legion I Romana" (Servilius Sulpicius Praetextatus) - Rome - 4,505 legionaries; 2,081 horsemen; 934 foot soldiers
    - "Legion II Italica" (Aelius Manlius Capitolinus) - Mediolanum - 10,032 legionaries; 3,745 hoplites; 82 horsemen; 148 foot soldiers
    - "Legion III Latina" (Lucius Geganius Macerinus) - Tarentum - 3,476 legionaries; 886 horsemen; 565 foot soldiers
    - "Legion IV Augusta" (Quintus Servilius Fidenas) - Rhegion - 2,394 legionaries; 247 horsemen; 500 foot soldiers
    - „Legion V Liguria“ (Vappa Monterus) - Rhegion - 1,965 legionaries; 9,767 foot soldiers
    - "Siege army" - Rhegion - 365 foot soldiers; siege equipment (4)
    Navy
    - "Roman Fleet" - Neapolis - 76 triremes; siege equipment (4)
    Notes
    Secret Police: Basic
    Government: Patrician Republic (Rome) dominates ally and subject states
    - cheaper colonies when land connection to capital

    Egypt
    Ruler: appleciders
    Economy
    Efficiency: 100% [base +50, food +20, goods +18, infra -12 (+3), dissent -0, war -10]
    Income: 138 talents [138 talents * 1]
    - taxation : 95 talents (-50)
    - trade (exports) : 21 talents [grain (Persia 12, Rome 8); paper (Macedonia 5, Lydia 4, Crete 4, Persia 4, Rome 4)]
    - agriculture: 22 talents (-16)
    - mines : 0 talents
    - Other Income : 0 talents
    Expenses: 106 talents
    - upkeep (army): 21 talents
    - upkeep (navy): 0 talents
    - trade (imports) : 79 talents [cattle (Persia 10); iron (Rome 8); salt (Macedonia 5); marble (Crete 5); horses (Macedonia 4); pottery (Lydia 4); furs (BospGr 4); timber (BospGr 4); wine (Macedonia 4); copper (Persia 4); oil (Rome 3); gold (Persia 3); silver (Persia 3); glasswares (Persia 3); dyes (Persia 3); drugs (Persia 3); gems (Persia 3); spices (Persia 3); silk (Persia 3)]
    - Other Expenses : 6 talents [Corruption, Piracy]
    Cash Flow: 32 talents per turn
    treasury: 315 talents
    Ressources: [camels, grain, paper, fish, (iron), (salt), (marble), (horses), (pottery), (furs), (timber), (wine), (copper), (cattle), (oil), (gold), (silver), (glasswares), (dyes), (drugs), (gems), (spices), (silk)]
    Army
    Military Effectiveness: 113% [base +50, leadership -5, training +7, experience +19 (+5), morale -8, equipment +50 ]
    - "Pharao´s Army" - Memphis - 11 war elephants; 1,417 war chariots; 5,067 horsemen; 2,934 swordsmen; 686 foot soldiers; 2,413 light infantry
    - [Persia] „Persian Elite Guard“ - Tanys - 724 immortals
    Navy
    Notes
    Secret Police: Good
    Government: Bureaucratic kingdom

    Bosporian Greek
    Ruler: NPC
    Economy
    Efficiency: 60% [base +50, food +10, goods +15, infra -10, dissent -5]
    Income: 83 talents [138 talents * 0.60]
    - taxation : 72 talents (+6)
    - trade (exports) : 42 talents [grain (Macedonia 9, Lydia 8, Sparta 6, Crete 5); furs (Egypt 4); timber (Egypt 4); iron (Lydia 6)]
    - agriculture : 24 talents
    - mines : 0 talents
    - Other Income : 0 talents
    Expenses: 46 talents
    - upkeep (army): 27 talents
    - upkeep (navy): 5 talents
    - trade (imports) : 14 talents [timber (Lydia 6); marble (Lydia 3); fabrics (Lydai 3); oil (Carthage 2)]
    - Other Expenses : 0 talents
    Cash Flow: 37 talents per turn
    treasury: 40 talents
    Ressources: [grain, wine, iron, furs, (timber), (oil), (marble), (fabrics)]
    Army
    Military Effectiveness: 84% [base +50, leadership -5, training +2, experience +2, morale +5, equipment +30]
    - "Crimean defence force" - Chersonesos - 2,000 horsemen; 7,500 foot soldiers
    - "Army of Olbia" - Olbia - 3,500 horsemen; 12,000 foot soldiers
    - "Istros garrison" - Istros - 1,000 hoplites
    - "Tanais Garrison" - Tanais - 2,000 hoplites
    Navy
    - "Crimean fleet" - Chersonesos - 15 triremes
    Notes
    Secret Police: Adequate
    Government: military alliance of city states, limited democracy

    Crete
    Ruler: NPC
    Economy
    Efficiency: 63% [base +50, food +10, goods +6, infra +0, dissent -3]
    Income: 67 talents [107 talents * 0.63]
    - taxation : 84 talents
    - trade (exports) : 5 talents [marble (Egypt 5)]
    - agriculture : 13 talents
    - mines : 0 talents
    - Other Income : 5 talents [Piracy]
    Expenses: 45 talents
    - upkeep (army): 28 talents
    - upkeep (navy): 8 talents
    - trade (imports) : 9 talents [grain (BospGr 5); paper (Egypt 4)]
    - Other Expenses : 0 talents
    Cash Flow: 22 talents per turn
    treasury: 75 talents
    Ressources: [marble, (grain), (paper)]
    Army
    Military Effectiveness: 55% [base +50, leadership -14, training +4, experience +12, morale +3, equipment +0]
    - "Cretean Army" - Crete - 2,000 hoplites; 5,000 horsemen; 12,735 foot soldiers
    - "Aegian Army" - Aegian Islands - 2,000 swordsmen; 6,500 foot soldiers
    Navy
    - "Cretean Fleet" - Knossos - 28 triremes
    Notes
    Secret Police: Adequate
    Government: Tyranny

    Other Armies
    - "Celtian Horde" - 1,201 foot soldiers
    - "Aquilejan Tribes" - Aquileja - 2,720 horsemen; 9,342 foot soldiers
    - "Southern Gauls" - near Genua - 3,846 horsemen; 10,115 foot soldiers
    - "Scythian Tribes" - Crim Peninsula - 7,000 horsemen; 14,000 foot soldiers
    - "Scythian Nomades" - North of Olbia - 14,500 horsemen
    - "Scythian Nomades II" - Northeast of Olbia - 8,500 horsemen
    - "Nubian Tribes" - Southern Egypt - 19,000 foot soldiers
    - "Lybian Nomads" - Western Egypt - 6,500 horsemen
    - "Arabian Tribes - Arabia - 12,000 horsemen; 7,500 foot soldiers
    - "Sinai tribes" - Sinai - 3,080 horsemen
    - "Adria garrison" - Adria - 6,000 hoplites; 3,000 horsemen; 6,750 foot soldiers
    - "Army of Massilia" - Massilia - 2,305 hoplites; 5,640 foot soldiers
    - "Army of Nicaea" - Nicaea - 2,000 hoplites
    - „Pirates“ - Baleares - 700 foot soldiers
    - „Western Moesian tribes“ - West of Moesia - 4,500 horsemen; 6,000 foot soldiers
    - „Dacian Army“ - Dacia - 5,500 swordsmen; 2,000 horsemen; 3,000 foot soldiers
    - „Bastarnae Warriors“ - Bastarnae - 7,000 swordsmen; 1,500 horsemen; 4,000 foot soldiers
    Other Navies
    - "Eastern Mediterranean Sea Pirates" - Beleares - 38 triremes
    Last edited by Micha; February 10, 2005, 16:21.
    Heinrich, King of Germany, Duke of Saxony in Cyclotron's amazing Holy Roman Empire NES
    Let me eat your yummy brain! :D
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    • #3
      Wait a minute, how does Rome have hoplites? Check the Apaulian Guards.

      In any case, I'm willing to settle for the border on the map right now, if I can get a bit of the income from the mines at Attus.
      Last edited by appleciders; January 24, 2005, 19:11.
      "Bother," said Pooh, "Eeyore, ready two photon torpedoes and lock
      phasers on the Heffalump. Piglet, meet me in transporter room
      three. Christopher Robin, you have the bridge."

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      • #4
        - [Magna Graecia] "Apulian Guards" - north of Padus River - 3,745 hoplites
        Yes? As you can see, the unit belongs to Magna Graecia, but is under Roman control. That´s why it includes hoplites
        Heinrich, King of Germany, Duke of Saxony in Cyclotron's amazing Holy Roman Empire NES
        Let me eat your yummy brain! :D
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        • #5
          Ah, that's what that means. Thanks Micha!
          "Bother," said Pooh, "Eeyore, ready two photon torpedoes and lock
          phasers on the Heffalump. Piglet, meet me in transporter room
          three. Christopher Robin, you have the bridge."

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          • #6
            The more the merrier.
            "Bother," said Pooh, "Eeyore, ready two photon torpedoes and lock
            phasers on the Heffalump. Piglet, meet me in transporter room
            three. Christopher Robin, you have the bridge."

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            • #7
              Or not, if he's been banned.
              Last edited by appleciders; January 24, 2005, 21:45.
              "Bother," said Pooh, "Eeyore, ready two photon torpedoes and lock
              phasers on the Heffalump. Piglet, meet me in transporter room
              three. Christopher Robin, you have the bridge."

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              • #8
                Persia Roolz!!!
                Lysistrata: It comes down to this: Only we women can save Greece.
                Kalonike: Only we women? Poor Greece!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by appleciders
                  Or not, if he's been banned.
                  Tass isn't banned.


                  And, zOMG cartage is g0in to PWN u allz!!!one!!11111eleven

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                  • #10
                    Then what's the little flashing logo that says "Banned- One Week" doing under his name?
                    "Bother," said Pooh, "Eeyore, ready two photon torpedoes and lock
                    phasers on the Heffalump. Piglet, meet me in transporter room
                    three. Christopher Robin, you have the bridge."

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                    • #11
                      I'm pretty sure that is just an avatar.

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                      • #12
                        Oh. Wow.
                        "Bother," said Pooh, "Eeyore, ready two photon torpedoes and lock
                        phasers on the Heffalump. Piglet, meet me in transporter room
                        three. Christopher Robin, you have the bridge."

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                        • #13
                          Ha ha, lol.

                          We all pass through that innocent, and clueless newb stage, it is part of the learning process.
                          Lysistrata: It comes down to this: Only we women can save Greece.
                          Kalonike: Only we women? Poor Greece!

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                          • #14
                            Yeah.... How do you tell that someone was banned, then?
                            "Bother," said Pooh, "Eeyore, ready two photon torpedoes and lock
                            phasers on the Heffalump. Piglet, meet me in transporter room
                            three. Christopher Robin, you have the bridge."

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                            • #15
                              You can't.

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