New NES Anybody?

[bipolarbear]

I said people, that is plural.

Although, I must say that your little angry smiley does suggest that you may intend to play unfairly in the next NES, should the stats arrive.

[bipolarbear]

So, I'm thinking of taking up the job of stats, becasue I'm felling just a tad impatient.

Does anybody object, or really want to do stats? Remeber you have to be fair, and somewhat realistic*.


I know that sounds silly coming from me, but when it is a part of the game as crucial as statistics, you can't just ask an eightball what the numbers should be.

[appleciders]

I'm not up for that much right now. If Bipolar wants to work with Icarus on this, I'm all for it.

[bipolarbear]

He's kind of disappeared, and the stats were due Monday. This the one problem with the whole interent thing, is that people can't always meet deadlines, b/c of prior commitments, or power outages, sickness, girl problems, the good stuff that leads up to girl problems, you know how it goes.

Does anybody have any ideas on what we could do to speed up the whole stats "thing"?

I was thinking we could post ballpark numbers. Like between, x and y.

[1889]

Originally posted by bipolarbear
I was thinking we could post ballpark numbers. Like between, x and y.

Uh, there's nothing between x and y.

[1889]

Ostrogoths

Army: unconquerable
Navy: Indomitable
Economy: uncountable
Culture: mind-boggling

Icarus, feel free to nudge these a little for balance.

[Gamecube64]

Visigoths
Army: Pwnzorz
Navy: OMG tehy sunk taht navy whit one ship but tehy have thousands!
Economy: 99% of worlds GDP, 99999999999999% growth rate
Culture: Universal, everyone celebrates all that is Visigothic

I think I downplayed em...

[bipolarbear]

Huns
Army: w00t! Uber cool, uber fast, uber silent, UBER strong, uber 10x better than yours.

Navy: Useless when you're landlocked!
Economy: better than yours times infinity plus infinity to the infinity power forever!!!
secret police: So secret we can't even post ratings!!!
Tech level: Outta space baby!!!!!!
Culture: makes yours look like Visigothic rednexorz!!!

[1889]

Cool we got stats. Now lets post some orders.

[Micha]

Originally posted by Lord Nuclear
We should contact Micha to join as well.

Well, thanks
(But then, I had to find this thread on my very own... )

I have one question, though. What is the most efficient way of going about editing the maps? Or, if it's easier, I could mod, and I could just get someone to make the edits for me.

You need Photoshop to be able to efficiently work with the map. While I´ve also tried other programs, Photoshop seems to be the best for this task.

You keep the map (as it is now) as the background layer and then have a new layer for borders, one for armies, one for cities, one for Text and so on. This way you can simply drag and drop armies instead of erasing them, repainting the map behind their old position and then redrawing the army at the new spot... Same goes for text and especially for changing borders!

[appleciders]

Most of us already have, but that doesn't mean we should drop this one. There's no reason not to have two at once.

[1889]

Tass, I didn't even know you were playing the other game. You post here to brag about the other game more than you post in the other game.

[Tassadar500]

Yes, he's a Stalinist.

[foolish_icarus]

You guys don’t deserve stats. Instead you get epic poetry.


There once was a man named foolish, who volunteered for many a task
Good natured and industrious, he’d do anything one could ask
Unfortunately for all, he tended to stall, and for orders that were tall, he couldn’t keep his eye on the ball
In the case of some particular stats, it was hard to find facts, other burdens were growing quite fast,
And the deadlines came and passed
It was quite a pain in the ass.
In typical fashion, he let it slide
Other NESers
stomped their feet and cried
Bipolarbear came storming for poor foolish’s hide
While Lord N’s eyes devilishly gleamed
Alas, the Attila Freeman Alliance was nowhere to be seen
Empires of strength grew under wise guidance of 89, 64, and bp,
Things were shaping up quite nicely, they all agreed
But something was missing, lacking, without;
‘Tis just not a game w’out Tass’s gnashing and shouts
All was in chaos! ruins! and death!
Sad girls were crying
Kittens were dying
Pigs were flying
One could even hear (in another universe, ‘tis true)
Deus Micha the Mighty sputter, thunder, and turn blue
(that’s what photoshop will do to you)
But of course it all ends happily,
It must, by custom and law
No one doubted the winter of delay would come to a suitable thaw
So gather round, noble friends, quench your thirst, doff your hats
Be thankful I gave you
This verse and that
Because I sat down and wrote this
Instead of the stats.












[number, cost, support]

Heavy Cavalry- Lances and swords and armor [1000, 12, 6]
Horse Archers- medium armor, effective bowmen. [1000, 10, 6]
Medium Cavalry- short spears or swords [1000, 8, 4]
Archers- ranked bowmen [1000, 6, 3]
Light infantry- sword, spear, axe, small or no shield. [2000, 7, 3]
Heavy infantry- ranked with spear or sword, interlocked shield formation [2000, 9, 4]
Ranged auxiliaries- slings, pilae, other projectiles [1000, 5, 2]
Siege Weapon [10, 8, 1]
Scorpion [25, 4, 1]
Warship [1, 5, 1]
Escort [1, 3, 1]

Specials:
It’s not just the prices that are different, they each have special fighting styles and strengths and weaknesses befitting their composition, what nation they are fighting fore, the terrain, etc. How much of a unique effect they will have depends on Nuclear.
Barbarian infantry (replaces light infantry) [1000, 3, 1] Franks, Saxons, Turingi
Eastern Legionary (replaces heavy infantry) [2000, 10, 4] Byzantines
Steppe Horsebowmen (replaces horse archers) [1000, 13, 1] Huns
Sassanid Cavalry (replaces medium cavalry) [1000, 6, 4] Sassanids
Western Warrior (replaces heavy infantry) [2000, 10, 3] Ostrogoths, Maurorum
Western Knight (replaces heavy cavalry) [1000, 14, 6] Visigoths, Vandals
Longboat (replaces escort) [1, 2, 1] Danes
Warband (replaces auxiliaries) [1000, 4, 2] Britons, Angles, Langobards, Gepidorum
Provincial Guard (replaces archers) [1000, 5, 3] Burgundy, Vasconia, Sveborum


Franks
Ruler: Jonny
Economy
Income: 135 gold/turn
Support: -95 gold/turn
Surplus Funds: 40 gold/turn
treasury: 40 gold
Army
Military Effectiveness: Good (65%)
5,000 medium cavalry [-20]
5,000 Archers [-15]
36,000 Barbarian infantry [-36]
2,000 Heavy infantry [-4]
5,000 Auxiliaries [-10]
Navy
10 Escorts [-10]
Notes
Empire Rating: Stable
Discontent: minimal (10%)
Secret Police: Adequate

Britons
Ruler: Pave
Economy
Income: 113/turn
Support: -83/turn
Surplus Funds: 30/turn
treasury: 36
Army
Military Effectiveness: fair (60%)
500 Medium Cavalry [-2]
4,000 Archers [-12]
12,000 Light Infantry [-18]
2,000 Heavy Infantry [-4]
16,000 Warband [-32]
50 Scorpions [-2]
- Navy
8 Warships [-8]
5 Escorts [-5]
Notes
Empire Rating: Stable
Discontent: minimal (14%)
Secret Police: Adequate

Isle Saxons
Ruler:
Economy
Income: 103 /turn
Support: -58/turn
Surplus Funds: 45/turn
treasury: 52
Army
Military Effectiveness: good (65%)
2,000 Medium Cavalry [-8]
3,000 Archers [-9]
22,000 Barbarian infantry [-22]
2,000 heavy infantry [-4]
3,000 auxiliaries [-6]
10 Siege Weapons [-1]
- Navy
4 Warships [-4]
4 Escorts [-4]
Notes
Empire Rating: Loose
Discontent: okay (20%)
Secret Police: Adequate


Isle Angles
Ruler:
Economy
Income: 110/turn
Support: -84/turn
Surplus Funds: 26/turn
treasury: 29
Army
Military Effectiveness: okay (55%)
1,000 Heavy Cavalry [-6]
1,000 Medium Cavalry [-4]
3,000 Archers [-9]
16,000 Light Infantry [-24]
3,000 Heavy Infantry [-6]
12,000 Warband [-24]
- Navy
4 Warships [-4]
7 Escorts [-7]
Notes
Empire Rating: Stable
Discontent: small (18%)
Secret Police: Adequate



Danes
Ruler: General Ludd
Economy
Income: 86/turn
Support: -60/turn
Surplus Funds: 26/turn
treasury: 28
Army
Military Effectiveness: Good (68%)
1,000 medium Cavalry [-4]
2,000 archers [-6]
16,000 light infantry [-24]
3,000 auxiliaries [-6]
- Navy
20 Longboats [-20]
Notes
Empire Rating: Stable
Discontent: some (30%)
Secret Police: Adequate


Turingi
Ruler:
Economy
Income: 100/turn
Support: -69/turn
Surplus Funds: 31/turn
treasury: 31
Army
Military Effectiveness: okay (58%)
2,500 Heavy Cavalry [-15]
3,000 Medium Cavalry [-12]
1,000 Archers [-3]
25,000 Barbarian Infantry [-25]
7,000 Auxiliaries [-14]
- Navy
none
Notes
Empire Rating: Stable
Discontent: okay (23%)
Secret Police: Adequate


Langobards
Ruler:
Economy
Income: 78/turn
Support: -61/turn
Surplus Funds: 17/turn
treasury:
Army
Military Effectiveness: average (50%)
1,000 Heavy Cavalry [-6]
3,000 Horse Archers [-18]
1,000 Medium Cavalry [-4]
2,000 Archers [-6]
10,000 Light Infantry [-15]
2,000 Heavy Infantry [-4]
4,000 Warband [-8]
- Navy
none
Notes
Empire Rating: Stable
Discontent: small (17%)
Secret Police: Adequate



Italian Ostrogoths
Ruler: 1889
Economy
Income: 165/turn
Support: 131/turn
Surplus Funds: 34/turn
treasury: 34
Army
Military Effectiveness: fair (65%)
20,000 Western Warriors [-30]
3,000 Medium Cavalry [-12]
4,000 Archers [-12]
10,000 Light Infantry [-15]
8,000 Auxiliaries [-16]
20 Siege Weapons [-2]
100 Scorpions [-4]
- Navy
25 Warships [-25]
15 Escorts [-15]
Notes
Empire Rating: Stable
Discontent: some (19%)
Secret Police: Adequate

Burgundy
Ruler:
Economy
Income: 125/turn
Support: -88/turn
Surplus Funds: 37/turn
treasury: 37
Army
Military Effectiveness: okay (55%)
6,000 Heavy Cavalry [-36]
3,000 Provincial Guard [-12]
8,000 Light Infantry [-12]
10,000 Heavy Infantry [-20]
3,000 Auxiliaries [-6]
50 Scorpions [-2]
- Navy
none
Notes
Empire Rating: Stable
Discontent: minimal (12%)
Secret Police: Adequate

Visigoths
Ruler: Gamecube64
Economy
Income: 180/turn
Support: -150/turn
Surplus Funds: 30/turn
treasury: 30
Army
Military Effectiveness: Good (68%)
8,000 Western Knights [-48]
2,000 Medium Cavalry [-8]
3,000 Archers [-9]
14,000 Light Infantry [-21]
12,000 Heavy Infantry [-24]
6,000 Auxiliaries [-12]
75 Scorpions [-3]
- Navy
20 warships [-20]
5 escorts [-5]
Notes
Empire Rating: Stable
Discontent: some (20%)
Secret Police: Adequate


Vasconia
Ruler:
Economy
Income: 85/turn
Support: -50/turn
Surplus Funds: 35/turn
treasury: 35
Army
Military Effectiveness: average (47%)
2,000 Medium Cavalry [-8]
3,000 Provincial Guard [-9]
6,000 Light Infantry [-9]
4,000 Heavy Infantry [-8]
4,000 Auxiliaries [-8]
- Navy
3 Warships [-3]
5 Escorts [-5]
Notes
Empire Rating: Stable
Discontent: minimal (10%)
Secret Police: Adequate


Sveborum
Ruler:
Economy
Income: 95/turn
Support: -61/turn
Surplus Funds: 34/turn
treasury: 34
Army
Military Effectiveness: average (49%)
3,000 Medium Cavalry [-12]
3,000 Provincial Guard [-9]
8,000 Light Infantry [-12]
4,000 Heavy Infantry [-8]
4,000 Auxiliaries [-8]
- Navy
4 Warships [-5]
7 Escorts [-7]
Notes
Empire Rating: Stable
Discontent: small (12%)
Secret Police: Adequate

Gepidorum
Ruler:
Economy
Income: 78/turn
Support: -61/turn
Surplus Funds: 17/turn
treasury:
Army
Military Effectiveness: average (50%)
1,000 Heavy Cavalry [-6]
3,000 Horse Archers [-18]
1,000 Medium Cavalry [-4]
2,000 Archers [-6]
10,000 Light Infantry [-15]
2,000 Heavy Infantry [-4]
4,000 Warband [-8]
- Navy
none
Notes
Empire Rating: Stable
Discontent: some (20%)
Secret Police: Adequate


Byzantines
Ruler: Comrade Tassadar
Economy
Income: 280/turn
Support: -269/turn
Surplus Funds: 11/turn
treasury: 11
Army
Military Effectiveness: Good (70%)
8,000 Heavy Cavalry [-48]
2,000 Horse Archers [-12]
3,000 Medium Cavalry [-12]
4,000 Archers [-12]
20,000 Light Infantry [-30]
40,000 Eastern Legionaries [-80]
10,000 Auxiliaries [-20]
50 Siege Weapons [-5]
125 Scorpions [-5]
- Navy
35 Warships [-35]
10 Escorts [-10]
Notes
Empire Rating: Susceptible
Discontent: some (28%)
Secret Police: Adequate


Huns
Ruler: bipolarbear
Economy
Income: 55/turn
Support: -39/turn
Surplus Funds: 16/turn
treasury: 16
Army
Military Effectiveness: Good (73%)
500 Heavy Cavalry [-3]
30,000 Steppe Horsebowmen [-30]
4,000 Light Infantry [-6]
- Navy
none
Notes
Empire Rating: Stable
Discontent: minimal (10%)
Secret Police: Adequate


Sassanids
Ruler: appleciders
Economy
Income: 200/turn
Support: -177/turn
Surplus Funds: 23/turn
treasury: 23
Army
Military Effectiveness: Okay (58%)
2,000 Heavy Cavalry [-12]
12,000 Sassanid Cavalry [-48]
4,000 Horse Archers [-24]
8,000 Archers [-24]
14,000 Light Infantry [-21]
4,000 Heavy Infantry [-8]
4,000 Auxiliaries [-8]
30 Siege Weapons [-3]
100 Scorpion [-4]
- Navy
15 Warships [-15]
10 Escorts [-10]
Notes
Empire Rating: Susceptible
Discontent: some (25%)
Secret Police: Adequate

Vandals
Ruler: foolish icarus
Economy
Income: 148/turn
Support: -112/turn
Surplus Funds: 36/turn
treasury: 36
Army
Military Effectiveness: fair (65%)
4,000 Western Knights [-24]
2,000 Horse Archers [-12]
3,000 Medium Cavalry [-12]
12,000 Light Infantry [-18]
6,000 Heavy Infantry [-12]
2,000 Auxiliaries [-4]
- Navy
15 Warships [-15]
15 Escorts [-15]
Notes
Empire Rating: Stable
Discontent: some (28%)
Secret Police: Adequate


Maurorum
Ruler:
Economy
Income: 100/turn
Support: -70/turn
Surplus Funds: 30/turn
treasury: 30
Army
Military Effectiveness: okay (59%)
1,000 Heavy Cavalry [-6]
3,000 Medium Cavalry [-12]
2,000 Horse Archers [-12]
2,000 Archers [-6]
8,000 Light Infantry [-12]
4,000 Western Warriors [-6]
3,000 Auxiliaries [-6]
- Navy
4 Warships [-4]
6 Escorts [-6]
Notes
Empire Rating: Stable
Discontent: small (17%)
Secret Police: Adequate


EDIT added players. Several peoples have not yet chosen nations.

[bipolarbear]

Thankyou ever soo much, I didn't mean to be a bother. Oh praise the lord!! No more modern NES for me!! Well I'll still play, but whoooo I mean damn Classy Tassy can brag all he wants to, but this one will always be cooler!!! Oh Yeah!!!