SNESA 8: Ironclad

[foolish_icarus]

ooc: grumble. I was hoping Germany would be the first to see my post. nichevo. About your military; 40 million, even for a communist nation as large as yours, would be pretty difficult to achieve. I'd say that is more a number for an imperial or super-imperial rating than merely huge.


India to China:

we assure, the people of Iraq and Persia will be taken care of. Hell, we might even make the region socialist. We invite you to help the people that are opressed by the Persian government to lead prosperous lives, perhaps you could step in and 'instill order' in Turkmenistan and Afghanistan. A successful operation on our part would also mean we could offer extremely reasonable prices for oil, to the benefit of the proletariat, of course.

To Germany (SECRET) :

the quicker the better, the vultures are sure to start circling. Lets not allow them to take more than a reasonable share.

[GeneralTacticus]

Germany - Diplomacy:

To India (top secret): While we would have preferred that thios occur at a later time, no matter. We have the troops to crush the Iraqis and Persians, and we still have a few contacts in teh Iraqi government that may prove useful. We are deploying our troops to invade Iraq from the east, and our planes are bombing Baghdad as we send this.

To World: Germany, in response to this blatant assault on it's rights and interests in the Middle East, is joining India in declaring war on Iraq (EDIT) and Persia. We will depose the fundamentalist governments of Iraq and Persia, and ensure that the rights and interests of all nations in Middle East are respected. The current regimes have demonstrated that they cannot be trusted with total power over two thirds of the world's oil supply.

Germany - Military Action:

German aircraft have begun long-range bombing runs over Baghdad, destroying a number of important government buildings. A large German fleet, carrying approximately 100 000 German troops, sails through the Straits of Gibraltar and across the Medditeranean, brushing aside the resistance of teh pathetic Iraqi navy. German paratroopers, supported by the air force, have seized Beirut and the surrounding areas, and are preparing it for the arrival of the German main force. Bribery and threats to a few officials in the Iraqi government has ensured that any attempts to respond will be significantly bogged down.

OOC: I was one of the first, I was just a bit slow at writing up a response to it.

[Jack_www]

ooc:
First that is a goal we have set, which will take time to get to. Also China has billions of people, so if I have 1.5 billion people and an army of 40 million that is not a big starin on the country.

[GeneralTacticus]

OOC: In any case, one could argue that with an army that huge,, they'd be mainly untrained mobs with guns, rather than a professional force, so they wouldn't be as effective as an Imperail army.

EDIT: 1.5 billion? China hasn't reached that even in 2003.

[Jack_www]

To India and Germany:
We would like to see that these nations remain indepent. Weather they are communist or not is not our main concern, what is that Germany and India apear to be trying to controll the world's oil supplies. We will do everything in our power to prevent the free flow of oil from the middle east to stop. Be warned that we are watching and have the force to stop you.

ooc:
I said it is a goal that I have. Thus we will begun to build up slowly to try to keep a well trained army, and the army i will have in 3 years will not be 40 million but smaller but still really big. Well I am not sure what population is of China at this point in time but I know it is really big.

[Jack_www]

ooc:
also in this NES i controll most of Asia which increases my population.

[GeneralTacticus]

To China: We have no interest in halting the free flow of oil from the Persian Gulf, merely in ensuring that our property rights in the region are respected and removing from power governments which have shown themselves to be unstable and unreliable. How would you react if your interests in a strategically vital region, which were an important pillar of your economy, were suddenly stolen from you?

[GeneralTacticus]

OOC: You have a point there, but ti still wouldn't be anywhere near 1.5 billion at this point in time. I'll see if I can dig out some figures for the Chines epopulation in the late 60s.

EDIT: found 'em. Chinese population in 1966 was ~745 million; remove the effects of the Great Leap Forward, and you get about 770 million. Add Indochina, Indonesia, etc, and you probly around 1-1.1 billion people.

[Jack_www]

To Germany:
We will not stop your current efforts to protect your interest in these countries. But we do not want to see this used as an excuse to start a land grab of the middle east and a move by India and Germany to try and controll most of the World's oil.

[Jack_www]

ooc:
I know, I was just using that as example more then anything else.

[GeneralTacticus]

To China: Then you have no cause for concern.

Germany - Military Actions:

The German main force has landed in and occupied Beirut, and then moved out into the surrounding area. The local troops have been totally overwhelmed, and a German mechanized division is heading south for Jeruslam, where there have been unconfirmed reports of violence between Arabs and Jews.

Meanwhile, German B-52 bombers are being rebased into Beirut and are preparing to launch airstrikes against targets across the Middle East. Germany and India have gained uncontested air superiority over the region, and in many areas Iraqi and Persian units are dissolving without firing a shot.Germany is moving more troops into the Med for an invasion of Turkey, which is threatening to revolt against the government in Baghdad.

[Sheep]

The Premier of the United Socialist States of America would like to speak.

' The new American constintuion has been formed. The new regime while remaining democratic in a sense will run under Trotoskyist principles of Social Democratism. The Socialist Party will compete against the Communist Party for seats. Any other leftist party is allowed. Other than a few minor changes the constituion will remain the same. This is to ensure the American acceptance of their liberation from the capitilists.

'The former President of the former USA was executed on Captiol Hill at miday today. 'Although we ask to join the Warsaw PAct of free peoples, the People's Army of Poland continue to oppress good Americans in Florida. We will not tolerate this even from a brother regime. We give the Polish half a year to withdraw or face renewed war.

To Italy, China, Russia (secret) the USSA asks for your help against the Polish menace. The government is being imperialistic with the state of Florida. We do nothing to them yet they continue to advance. We must stop this affront to world communism. Marx and Lenin must not of died in vain if the likes of Premier Goober are allowed to continue to run the county.

The USSA Army moves to the front lines.
The USSA NAvy moves to the Atlantic coast and the Baltic Sea
The USSA Subfleet moves to striking distance of Poland
The USSA Air Force around the world mobilises for air stikes against Poland using Carriers in the Mediterranean and Baltic Seas.

United Socialist States of America - Statistics (1966):

Imperial Army
Imperial Navy
Imperial Air Force
Huge Nukes
Space Satleities: Large
Economy: Prosperous
Govt: Social Democracy
Leader: Premier Sheep
Tech Level: Mid Modern
MPP's: pending entry to Warsaw PAct
War: Continued aggression by Poland

Projects: Moon landing (3 years)
Moon base (10 years)
Space NAvy resarch (6 years)
Stealth (9 years)
Neutron Bomb (8 years)

[GeneralTacticus]

Reality Police:

Sheep, a nation that has just been invaded and defeated could not possibly sustain both such a huge miltiary and a prosperous economy. You have either one or the other.

[Giovanni Wine]

The Mediterranean Communist Confederation of People have formed.

Italian and Greek ministers met together today as to discuss the terms of the union which will merge together the nationc of Italy and Greece.

After hours of talkings and discussions the two countries agreed in adopting a Marxist form of communism, with elections for the new President once every five years, and as for the time being the new government have been formed by having the former Italian president, being the President of the Mediterranean Confederation as well, while the former Greek president, Kostas Stephanoupulos, being the new Domestic Minister.

The administrative capital have been placed in Athens, while the senate and the supreme court have been placed in Rome, and as such the new Confederation will be runned by two capitals both being equally important.

Last but not least, the Greek and Italian military have joined together forming a very strong force in the Mediterranean.

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Diplomacy
To: China, Canada, France
We thank you for your monetary aid and your help, we shall pay you back once our works have been completed.

To: Poland
We thought that the polish army in Austria was helping us overthrowing the fascist regime there, not taking over the country, we must ask you to withdraw your army from Austria, and let the new nation run indipendently under the new Communist Regime instaured there.

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MCCP Military
Army: Large
Navy: Huge
Air Force: Very Large
Nukes: None

MCCP Statistics
Government: Marxist Repubblic
Structure: Confederation
President: Giacomo Leoni
Capitals: Athens, Rome
Territories: Italian Peninsula, Balkans
Population: About 100 Milion
Economy: Stabilizing

MCCP Projects:
Rebuilding of Italy: 3 years (boosted up after foreign help and union with Greece)

Saluti

[Jack_www]

TO USSA:
We suport your enter into Warsaw pact. Also Polland seems not to trust you and entill there is a formal peace treaty I think they wish to keep troops in Florida, but China is sure that we can get them out peacefully.

To USSA, and Warsaw nations(secret):
The Chinese government allong with Polland believes that is some sort of plan by Germany and India to seize most of the middle east for them selves. We must make sure that we have an equal share in the world's oil supplies since we consume more all then they would ever in a life time. China is watching events as they unfold and urge all Warsaw nations to place their millitary on high alert and be prepared to act if it is neccessary. If the flow of oil out of middle east is not undistribed then we will not act, but if we feel we are being cut off we will acted to protect the nations of Warsaw and USSA.