cAHNES: 1811

[Giovanni Wine]

To Louisiana:
We will attack the WCI very soon, will you join us in this crusade?

To Pedro de Pollo:
We will help you gain power and stability in your country, however you must side with us against the European, if you do not agree, we will support to power one of your competitors.

To France:
I'm sorry, but US territories are not for sale.

To Spain and Russia:
Even if we are having some disagreement with you ally: France, I hope that we can still have good relationship with your great countries, and that you will both sign a NAP with us.

To Britain:
As it seems that we are now out of the French lead alliance, we will now agree on the formation of a British government in exile in New York, in case of an attack of the European alliance against you.

To WCI:
The USA do not recognize your sovreignity over those territories, those land belong to the USA and Louisiana, so either you give us that and your people will be able to leave in full right in our countries, or you face war.

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USA Stats
Capital: Washington D.C.

Large Army
Medium Navy
Government: Democratic Repubblic

((OOC: I Pulled off the European alliance so to create a two alliance block, one in America, and one in Europe, the New vs the Old World - although the Euros are still much stronger ))

Saluti

[civman2000]

WCI to US: How does the land belong to you? 95% of teh population is ours, how can you claim the land?

Pedro del Pollo to Spain: Watch out, the US and Louisiana may be plannign an attack on Florida soon. They are increasingly hostile to Europeans and will probably target your colonies.

[mmtt]

Spain is building new merchant ships to increase her commercial power.
Factories are being built in Barcelona and Madrid. Spain economic experts expect an increase from medium to large in 4 years.


Casualties during Portugal war are being replaced( 40.000 men more being trained).

Troops are being sent to Florida and Mexico to help dictator Pedro de Pollo to maintain order in Mexico.(60.000 in Mexico and 10.000 in Florida).
100.000 are sent in Pas-de-Calais to reinforce Alliance troops there. The rest is stationed in South America and Portugal mainly.

Spain war navy is mainly divided between European coast and Golf of Mexico.

Portugal has his own government though it must refer to Spain in foreign diplomacy and declaration of war. Interior policy is still under control of Portugal.
Portuguese receive Spain citizenship.
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To Allies:
I'm not for a war against NATO.
If Britain falls into French hands, I would like Gibraltar.
Ottoman Empire seems to be the next target. With Britain and Ottoman Empire in our hand, we will have our back safe.
Russia keep your troops in North America, we need to be able to lead a two fronts war anytime.

To NATO:
I hope you will continue to participate in research for steampower.

[Sheep]

French Diplomacy

To USA: Okay we don't push the point on QUbec. If you wish you can stay allied to NApoleon Sheep and stay in the Steam Power Project

To European Allies: (secret) I think the Ottoman Empire is the best course for the next phase.

To Mexico: We send fifty thousand troops to help squash the rebellions

To WIC: (read all) I will defend you if attacked

To Louisania and USA: Do not attack the sovereign nation of the WIC as I will defend them.

All Projects are minus a year

French colonies have been st up in North Africa. Morrocco has been overun by France and annexed to the Empire. All of North Africa is now a FRench Domain

[mmtt]

Spanish expeditionnary forces have been sent in Western Africa in Golf of Guinea. They will increase trading posts and start colonization. British colony there are also being invaded.

To Allies:
(May we go to the chatroom)
I think we should also share Africa as it is free from any major nations.

[Jonny]

Louisiana Diplomacy
To Russia: We are interested in buying your North American Territories. We are prepared to offer $10 million for all of your North American possessions. Also, if you sell the territories to us, we will sign a permanent peace treaty with you. You can trust us - although we may appear to be untrustworthy to some people, we really aren't.

To US(secret): We are ready to attack the WCI if they do not cede the lands that rightfully belong to us.

To France and Spain: Do not annex Great Britain. You have no claim to their lands nor any reason to take them over. If you take their lands over, we will be forced to take action.

To Mexico and WCI: The WCI's land rightfully belongs to us. Why? We went to war with Mexico, and we won. We were going to get some of Mexico's land in a peace agreement. But instead of them cedeing the lands to us, they gave those lands independence (under the WCI.) So, we are very angry at WCI, because they occupy the lands that should have been ours.

OOC: I also think that what Mexico did there (give WCI independence) was somewhat unrealistic. They granted independence to lands that weren't under their control at the time, which would be hard to do IRL. If you don't control the land, you can't give it independence.
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Domestic
-A portion of the army is moving towards our western and southwestern borders.

-A new secret project by Louisiana's government scientists is now underway. They claim that when it is finished in 3 years (3 days IRL), Louisiana's infrastructure and economy will greatly benefit from its creation and use.
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Louisiana's Status
Louisiana (dark brown)
Large Army
Medium Navy
Republic
Ruler: Jonny
Current Projects: "Infrastructure and Economy Improvement (Secret)" - 3 years.

[civman2000]

To Mexico and WCI: The WCI's land rightfully belongs to us. Why? We went to war with Mexico, and we won. We were going to get some of Mexico's land in a peace agreement. But instead of them cedeing the lands to us, they gave those lands independence (under the WCI.) So, we are very angry at WCI, because they occupy the lands that should have been ours.

Pedro del Pollo to Louisiana: Let me clarify a few things. The WCI was NOT granted independence. They REBELLED against the old government when the war started, BEFORE your troops got very far invading MExico. ANd don't ask why I support them if the old regime didn't. This is a different government, and the new government respects the native smericans.

WCI to Louisiana: How can you claim that those lands "should have been yours"??? You never had them! We even were friendly to you, and allowed you to go through ourlands to attack Mexico! If you invade a nation and a part of it rebels and the rebels like but want to be independent from you, is it not reasonable to encourage them as your friends to weaken your enemy?

Also, there are approximatelyu 106 US or Louisianan settlers in the WCI. THat is hardly good reason to claime it when there are hundreds of thousands of us, and we have been here for centuries.


Secretly, the WCI army moves toward the borders, and prepares to ambush all US/Louisiana cities or forts along the border as soon as they receive orders.

THanks to French and Spanish help, Pedro del POll no controls all of Mexico.

[Metaliturtle]

Originally posted by civman2000

Secretly, the WCI army moves toward the borders, and prepares to ambush all US/Louisiana cities or forts along the border as soon as they receive orders.

OOC: This is extremely unrealistic, A native population would fight all threats including Mexico, Civman, you are playing both countries as one more powerful country, so I'm going to say PICK one and leave the other to someone else.

Anyone else think this is a bunch of crap say so!))

The British people ask russia to lift the blocade so that the remnants of their people can be returned, as for the French citizens, they were killed a long time ago by the former king of England.

British Colonies in Africa have been evacuated, approximately 20,000 slaves accompanied the 100,000 citizens of the British Empire, the British people are hiding at an undisclosed location until the Russian blocade is lifted.

((OOC Note: whoever was developing colonies in africa, if you look to the beginning it said "colonies in africa are undeveloped and should remain that way." ))

Fires tear through London, destroying 13,000 homes and killing 30,000 civilians, Britain asks for foreign aid from all nations to rebuild. The people are currently being housed in schools and warehouses. The fire was put under control by one of London's glorious rains.

(secret) British forces in Gibraltar wire the border to explode should the Spanish advance, creating, in effect, the very first land mines. they have been buried with shards of metal to wound more than one soldier.

(not quite as secret, but still secret anyway to all nations but France and Russia) Pie is delicious, would you like some pie?

[Giovanni Wine]

OOC: Bah, this NES is going bad, running an historical NES is very difficult, as it is too easy to fall in the unrealistic.

IC:
USA declare war on WCI
Despite the many threats the United Stated are now officially at war with the WCI.
US troops, under the supreme command of General Foster have invaded the WCI territories, only to find out that the main army of the WCI was getting ready to attack us as well

US Troops have not yet attacked the WCI army, but they decided to quickly build a defensive line, so to keep the Native forces busy on that front, in the hope that Louisiana will instead occupy and siege WCI lands.

Diplomacy

To Russia:
I propose a NAP with your great nation.

To Spain:
USA is interested in purchasing Florida from you, are you willing to sell it to us?

To Britain:
We are not in the position of sending any help to you right now, as the situation here is also very unstable.
However, a small group of our citizen with British origins, got very sensibilized by the view of the fire of London and formed a little volunteer group, which wants to go over to England to help you in the rebuilding.
Aproximatly 1.000 people are coming to England offering their help.

To France:
I'm sorry, we know that you liked the WCI, but our people really need that land.
In repaiment for that we will send you 10 milion Francs.

To Louisiana:
We attacked WCI, however, our troops got stuck as we founded out that the WCI was about to attack us as well, and we are now in a defensive position, trying to keep the Natives busy.
If you attack them you can easily take over their land, and than we will share it between us.

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The US has trained and armed a small group of rebel to overthrow the Pollo government, Although the US officially deny any connection with those "barbars"
(OOC: Civman will have to decide what that group will achieve)

Saluti

[Jonny]

Louisiana Diplomacy

Louisiana has declared war on the WCI, in order to help our allies.

To US(secret): Our forces are moving west into WCI lands, encountering little resistance. After we push somewhat far into their territory, we will double back and the WCI forces from behind, to reduce the burden on your forces.

OOC: I agree with Metaliturtle. civman, you need to pick just one of those countries to control, and stop using one to help the other.
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Louisiana's Status
Louisiana (dark brown)
Large Army
Medium Navy
Republic
Ruler: Jonny
Current Projects: "Infrastructure and Economy Improvement (Secret)" - 2 years.

[mmtt]

Spanish artillery start bombarding Gibraltar and also someEnglish trying to setup something around the border. Some shells hit the border and parts of"mines" explode.

(I don't think barbed wires exist? and I don't know how you can trigger your mines.are they using gun powder?)

Fortifications are being built in Florida and a small size army is being sent from Spain(80.000 but veteran of Portugal war) (2 years).


Spanish forces in Mexico cross frontier and advance in WCI to protect inhabitants. They give them ammunition, rifles and even cannons. Boats from Europe are being unloaded in Mexico harbors.
Out of 200.000 men being stationed in South America/Mexico, already 50.000 men are on the way.

(I think WCI should start a guerilla war. Any real battles against America or Louisiana would end in an Natives bloodshed.)

To NATO:
We won't sell Florida until your warmongering actions stop! WCI is a free state. You have no rights upon it. You got back your former possessions, you shouldn't invade nations.

To Mexico/WCI (secret) (OOC:well either you keep Mexico or you annex at the same time WCI as a sovereign state):
As you seem to be under threats of NATO, Spain is willing to support you if you accept to join European Alliance and arrivals of Europe troops in your country.

To Allies (extremely secret):
We need to strike now! We can't let NATO gain power without reacting. I propose Russia to strike in Canada from North while I hold them off in WCI and Mexico. France would attack by Florida.
Britain seems to weak at the moment to do anything.


Spain Army:
200.000 South America
30.000 Florida
370.000 Spain (but leaving)

[Jack_www]

To United States:
We are ending our alliance with you.

To England:
You have suffered long enough. We will end our blockade. Next time do not attack the Russian Navy ever again!

To Allies(TOP SECRET):
Russia is sending about 100 ships, mostly form the Britain Blockade to the Gulf of Mexico. We have 100,000 troops in our occupied section of Mexico and we may give that section back to Mexico depending on which side they ally with. We also have 100,000 troops in Alaska, 75,000 of them along the United States border. We will be sending 175,000 more troops to our section of Mexico form Spain, the remaining 175,000 will return to Russia once Spain does not need them stationed in Spain any longer. We should begin a blockade of United States and Louisiana if these attacks conitnue. We also fear the growing power of this new alliance. Now that Britian is crushed, we should let them conitnue as part of our alliance, with a new King of our chosing.

[civman2000]

OOC: I plan on mainly being the WCI.

The Barbars have assassinated Pollo, and quickly gained the allegiance of the military by promising higher wages and other special rewards for victory. Through the military, the Barbars now control most of Mexico.

The WCI has begun raids on Louisianan supply lines and disrupted approximately 60% of the supplies reaching the main forces.

Meanwhile, small groups have performed "hit-and-run" attacks on GEneral Foster's troops, and most have been able to escape with few casualties.

WCI to Russia (top secret): Cut off the American forces from behind. If they get surrounded without outside contaact in hostile land we can quickly decimate them. You will be allowed to keep all of your territories and perhaps gain some more territory in Northwest Canada if you support us. Oppose us and you will face a brutal war in which any Russia settlers outside of the major settlements will be killed. Also, Spain is on our side and they are by far the strongest force in the Americas when it comes to pitched battles.

[Metaliturtle]

To Russia: Your men will be returned if you and France sign a NAP with Britain. Obviously one cannot, in good conscious, return soldiers to a nation that would just as soon attack you as look at you. Get us the NAP, and we will return your men safely.

[firefarter]

OOC: I would like to start the revolutionary nation of Germany, is that ok with everyone?