cAHNES: 1811

[civman2000]

This NES takes place mainly in Europe and the Americas, though a little bit of Africa and Asia are included. I'm at school right now, i will post the map when i get home

From 1804-1806, Aaron Burr plotted a revolution in the Western territories/states of the US. When Britain was not interested, his chief co-conspirator betrayed him to President Jefferson, but what if the revolt had succeeded?

A world war resulted. On one side were Revolutionary France, led by Napoleon, Spain, Russia, and the US. On the other side were Britain, most of the German and Italian states, Austria, the new nation of Louisiana led by Burr, and after it rebelled from SPain in 1809, Mexico. Sweden and the Ottoman Empire were the only significant nations to remain neutral.

Now, it is 1811. An uneasy peace has been reached. France, Russia, and Spain have divided up most of Europe, and Britain is reeling from the trade losses. However, England won a crushing naval victory against the Spanish at Trafalgar. The resulting invasion of Spain won the British Gibraltar and the area surrounding it, and won independence for Portugal. Napoleon is getting restless, for he cannot successfully invade Britain and only his allies/neutrals remain in continental Europe.

In the Americas, the British-Louisiana-Mexico alliance won a decisive victory. The British have expanded the borders of Canada (but were forced back by the RUssians in Alaska), and when Mexico rebelled the independence of Louisiana was secured. The rebellion of Mexico has caused a few underground movements to form in Central and SOuth AMerica, but no revolution has been launched there yet.

In the US, the political system is now near collapse. Jefferson was highly unpopular for his failure to stop BUrr's rebellion, but so were the Federalists for urging the nation to be friendly to Britain, who betrayed them in favor of Louisiana. As a result, George Clinton has been elected president.

A few notes: All of the following areas, excepting major cities, are dominated by Native americans and the country that "controls them" actually has very little control over them: South America, All lands West of the Rockies except for those controlled by Mexico, Canada (BRitish land) West of the Great Lakes, and Alaska (Russian lands) except for the coast. The big green blob in Africa is out of bounds. Colonies in Africa are small and relatively undeveloped, and shall remain that way. Technology is Late Middle ages/early industrial, and will not advance very much. Portugal is the weakest nation, but its independence must be respected because of the treaty between Britain and Spain.

Also note that standards for army and navy sizes are much smaller in theis time period

Nations:
Britain (orange)
Large army
Huge navy
Constitutional Monarchy
Ruler: Metaliturtle
Allies: Louisiana, Mexico, Portugal
War: None

Louisiana (dark brown)
Medium army
Small navy
Republic
Ruler: ??
Allies: Britain, Mexico
War: None

Mexico (yellow)
Medium army
Medium navy
Republic
Ruler: civman2000
Allies: Louisiana, Britain
War: None

Portugal (red)
Small army
Small navy
Monarchy
Ruler: jdd2007
Allies: Britain
War: None

France (pink)
Huge army
Medium navy
Egalitarian Dictatorship (everyone is equal except the dictator)
Ruler: Sheep
Allies: Russia, Spain, USA
War: None

Russia (light brown)
Large army
Medium navy
Autocracy
Ruler: Jack_www
Allies: France, Spain, USA
War: None

Spain (green)
Medium army (downsized in treaty with Britain)
Small navy (downsized in treaty with Britain)
Monarchy
Ruler: ??
Allies: Russia, France, USA
War: None

USA (light blue)
Small army
Small navy
Republic
Ruler: ??
Allies: France, Spain, Russia
War: None

Ottoman Empire (gray)
Large army
Medium navy
Theocracy
Ruler: ??
Allies: None
War: None

Sweden (dark blue)
Medium army
Medium navy
Monarchy
Ruler: ??
Allies: None
War: None

[Jack_www]

I will be Russia. I hope a lot of people join this NES.

[civman2000]

One more note: Although it is not on the map, Russia can send troops to ALaska via Siberia (though they do have to get to siberia first)

map:

[civman2000]

I'll be mexico

[jdd2007]

sweden or portugal? both sound like fun, but i will choose portugal

[Sheep]

i think i'll be France. I hope this desn't kill off the other nes, but if does, this one may be enjoyable.

[civman2000]

To Louisiana (when someone becomes them):
Some of the land which rightfully belongs to the Republic of Mexico in in your territory. You had taken it from spain before we revolted, and you have ti now. However, now that we have together defeated Spain we believe we should get the land. Map of the proposed border is below (current border is green, proposed border in white).

SECRET To Spain (when someone becomes them):
Grant independence to two nations: United Lands of Central America (ULCA) and Florida-Cuba (FC). If you do this, I will halt all actions encouraging revolt in South America, and even encourage loyalty in spain. I will also sign an NAP and usually side with you in wars.

[jdd2007]

Portugal demands aid from England, as soon as they have a leader

[Sheep]

French Diplomacy

To Spain: We will support you in the suppression of the rebellious forces in your American colonies, if you ask for it.

To Portugal: I will be willing to give you the aid you need, on one condition, you sign an alliance with us and cancel the one with Britain.

To Russia: (top secret) I wonder what are the chances of successfully invading Britain are, they are our most dangerous foes, or perhaps a expasion into Sweeden. You could have the northen half of the country, and I the southern half.

To USA (top secret) If I go ahead with an invasion of Britain, would you be willing to tie up some Canadian forces. I will send troops to aid you against an expected Loisianian reprisal

To Louisania. We ask that you cancel your alliance with Briatain and instead ally with us. We will prevent any attempted US take over, or MExican

To Mexico: Cease youur aid to the rebellious forces in Spannish America, or you will fear the wrath of Emperor Napoleon.

[civman2000]

To Mexico: Cease youur aid to the rebellious forces in Spannish America, or you will fear the wrath of Emperor Napoleon.

Proposal made to Spain has been forwarded to France. (so it's not secret to them anymore)

[Metaliturtle]

I shall take Britain

[Jonny]

This looks interesting.

I'll be Louisiana.

OOC: Civman, what are the white areas on the map?

Historical Note: I'm pretty sure that Burr was actually trying to help the New England states secede, not the western states.

[Jonny]

Domestic:
We are upgrading our Army from Medium to Large. Will take 4 days real time.
We are upgrading our Navy from Small to Medium. Will take 2 days real time.
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Diplomacy:

To France: We are keeping our alliance with Britain and Mexico.

To Mexico: We understand that some of that land that we currently hold culturally belongs to you. However, your proposal would involve us giving up too much land to you. You are already much larger than us. But, in order for you to have much of the land that culturally belongs to you, we propose the following border (our proposal in red):

[Metaliturtle]

((What about Portugese holdings in south america, they should have all of brazil))

[Metaliturtle]

TO ALL NATIONS

Britain wishes to let it be known that her advanced Naval strategies will be available to all nations which declare war upon France and change alliegance to the British side. Napoleon is a madman, and must be stopped at all costs.

((side note: Russia and France really shouldn't be allied, because the invasion of Russia is what caused Napoleon's downfall in real life.))