WWII wonders

[Thoddy]

Originally posted by techumseh


That's a good idea. I've been thinking about a way to turn wonders off and on.

It should possible with tot I think.

give technology (wondertech, no,no- untradeable Tech) by event making wonder obsoelete if an enemy captures wondercity
take technology(wondertech) if wondercity is retaken by the english

[Mao]

Wait...is this scenario for ToT? d'oh!

[techumseh]

Originally posted by Thoddy
It should possible with tot I think.

Shhh....! Don't mention ToT. There will be a rush for the exits!

Seriously. I think people should give this scenario a chance. I know many of you have ToT on your shelf, if not on your hard drives. It's very well suited to multiplayer scenarios and allows simple, very strategic events which are not otherwise possible.

I've tried to make the scenario from the ground up as a multiplayer scenario. As Case says, it's a lot easier (and simpler) than than designing with the AI in mind. The objective is to make all 7 civs both playable and fun. While it will take a special kind of person to want to play China , I think I've come close. So dust off those old CD cases and reinstall your Test of Time!

[Henrik]

I wish there was a ToT for mac

[techumseh]

Sorry. So do I.

[Michael7586]

If anyone wants my copy of ToT or Civ3 for that matter, they can have it! Both games just sit on my bookself - collecting dust - both removed from my hard-drive shortly after being installed!

I should have understood what ToT was when I saw the pricetag at $19.95 Cdn!!! (but I couldn't resist the Civ label - at least I didn't waste much money on it)

Michael

[St Leo]

Second, a wonder (Newton's College) in Tokyo or Osaka to represent the Japanese scientific research effort.

How 'bout "Meiji Restoration"?

[MagyarCrusader]

Tech, if this scenario is ToT, you can count me in for a playtest. Even if I have to be a frog.

[Heresson]

Don't You offend the forgs!

[techumseh]

Originally posted by Heresson
Don't You offend the forgs!

How can you offend a Forg?

[Mao]

*makes fun of Forg's mother* nyah!

[MagyarCrusader]

Your right Heresson. We shouldn't insult the frogs by calling them French.

[techumseh]

Alright you two! Don't start that again, or I'll call a moderator.

Wait a minute.....

[The Apologist]

Are you sure it's a good idea to be starting a World War II Scenario before Pearl Harbor & Barbarossa? Japan may be in for a spot of bother if they can't bushwhack the Yankee fleet, and I don't like the odds of presenting a decent Eastern Front dynamic.

[techumseh]

Originally posted by The Apologist
Are you sure it's a good idea to be starting a World War II Scenario before Pearl Harbor & Barbarossa? Japan may be in for a spot of bother if they can't bushwhack the Yankee fleet, and I don't like the odds of presenting a decent Eastern Front dynamic.

I think the reason a number of scenarios, incl. 2194 Days and several WWII Europe scenarios started at some point after the outbreak of war is that they were designed as one player games. The AI just can't handle a Pearl Harbour or a Barbarossa if everything isn't set up exactly right for it.

In a PBEM, everything is up to the human player. It's up to the Japanese player, for example, to find out where the US Pacific Fleet is, deceive the American player about his intentions and sneak up and attack. Or some other strategy. Or some other enemy, like attacking the Soviets in Siberia. The players make their own history.

I've tried to build in some real historical pressures, which may lead to approximate historical results. Germany and Japan temporarily have more and better military units. But they have a lower research rate and are short of money and food. Sitting around is not their best strategy.

Re: the bushwhacking of the American Fleet, I read an article somewhere that suggested that if Pearl Harbour had not occurred, the American defeat may have been WORSE. The theory is that if the Japanese had only attacked the Philippines, the American fleet would have sortied out into the Pacific to defend it. Somewhere it would have been intercepted by the Japanese carriers. The old and slow American battleships and the obsolete American carrier aircraft would have been no match for the Japanese planes, resulting in the TOTAL destruction of the American Pacific Fleet, carriers and all. I dunno if that's what would have happened, but it's an interesting speculation.