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**Comrade Tribune** · January 15, 2003, 13:09

Originally posted by Jon Miller
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**Comrade Tribune** · January 15, 2003, 13:14

Originally posted by Grumbold
The only think I don't like about Rise and Fall is that it concentrates exclusively on the European war.

Advanced Third Reich has a Pacific Companion:

The resource cannot be found.

http://www.warplanner.com/whatisers.aspx

[You didn´t know about ERS? Shocking!!

]

**Comrade Tribune** · January 15, 2003, 13:21

Originally posted by Grumbold
In Rise and Fall there are too many things that get done the same way at the same time in every game because they are the "right" thing to do.

Yeah, but I like the fact that it doesn´t allow one to be really silly. This also has the side benefit of a better ai. And the things that get always done the same way occur only in the first 1-2 turns. After that, it´s pretty open. With the Axis in the campaign, you have at least 3 totally different Grand Strategies, and quite a number of variations on each of them. That is, if all does go according to plan. If not, and you get bad die rolls, possibilities are endless.

**Comrade Tribune** · January 15, 2003, 18:05

Bungled Barbarossa

The dents made into the Soviet defences by the Fascists are so small that they are laughable. And now the Russian Winter is approaching. The criminal occupiers are in for a sound trashing!

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**Comrade Tribune** · January 16, 2003, 18:16

Meanwhile in North Africa...

8th Army is starting Operation Crusader, the push towards Tripoli:

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**Comrade Tribune** · January 16, 2003, 18:21

Soon another Italian garrison is bypassed, cut off from its supply line, and forced to surrender.

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**Grumbold** · January 17, 2003, 09:41

Originally posted by Comrade Tribune

Advanced Third Reich has a Pacific Companion:

The resource cannot be found.

http://www.warplanner.com/whatisers.aspx

[You didn´t know about ERS? Shocking!!

]

My copy has sat in the cupboard untoughed for 16 years or more. Whatever advances they've made since I last knew a bunch of serious boardgamers have entirely passed me by

These days if we get 4 of us together for a weekend its usually to play as many 1-2 hour games as possible, not one big game. Unfortunately that means most of my games are collecting dust. If I'm lucky I might persuade them to play Civ or Age of Rennaissance, but not a long wargame.

**Spaced Cowboy** · January 17, 2003, 10:12

CT,

Thanks for the walk-thru.

I'll be trying to get this to run on my XP machine this weekend.

**Comrade Tribune** · January 17, 2003, 15:09

Originally posted by Grumbold
These days if we get 4 of us together for a weekend its usually to play as many 1-2 hour games as possible, not one big game. Unfortunately that means most of my games are collecting dust. If I'm lucky I might persuade them to play Civ or Age of Rennaissance, but not a long wargame.

Heh; why do you think I am so happy there is finally a playable computer version of 3R?

I can get my friends to an afternoon of boardgames only once or twice a year; and even then it´ll rather be something like Risk 2210 (it´s fun, though).

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http://www.avalonhill.com/default.asp?x=welcome

We play that in the local coffeehouse; though the waiters think I am slightly unhinged when I arrive there with a box with hundreds of robot armies.

And of course my friends ally against me from go!, knowing this is the safest course.

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**Comrade Tribune** · January 17, 2003, 15:12

Originally posted by RPMisCOOL
I'll be trying to get this to run on my XP machine this weekend.

Great! Glad you liked my AARs.

**Comrade Tribune** · January 17, 2003, 15:15

Before

Russians prepare for their Winter Offensive...

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**Comrade Tribune** · January 17, 2003, 15:19

After

...and off they go, leaving behind hundreds of German tank wrecks and 3 encircled Rumanian armies.

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**Comrade Tribune** · January 18, 2003, 12:45

Got HoI!

First Impression: "Oh NOOOOOO! I have died and gone to Micromanagement Hell!!!"

2nd Impressions follow.

**Comrade Tribune** · January 19, 2003, 14:39

2nd Impressions:

-Yes, it´s interesting.

-But it´s not quite as good as the EU series.

-The game is super-detailed (and very time-consuming!) in the Military/Tech sector.

-But it´s disappointing in the Diplomacy sector. Few Events, few things to do really. Don´t expect another EUII here.

-Graphics are ok, but nothing spectacular.

-Music is great.

-Manual seems ok at first glance, but is inaccurate. There are important options in the manual, that are not in the game (Trade Pacts!)

Otoh, some things that ARE in the game are not explained in the manual.

-Intro is ok, but shortish, and again not QUITE as good as EU´s.

-Expect to be drawn in by the atmosphere.

-But also expect the game to be extremely time-consuming.

-As a Major Power, there is too much you HAVE to do.

-As a Minor Power, there is too little you CAN do.

-In the final analysis, this game is VERY much a question of personal taste. My verdict:

Somewhere between 5 to 9/10.

**Spaced Cowboy** · January 20, 2003, 12:42

CT,

I'm glad you were able to pin it down (5 to 9)???

Are you tryin to say that it might suck, but you're not sure yet?

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