Utopia - Age 15: The Age of Valour

[DinoDoc]

Why no homes?

Originally posted by Zopperoni
I've gone Halfer/Rogue now:

This is what I'm thinking of:

08% Farms
25% Armories
30% Banks
25% Guilds
12% Towers

[Chowlett]

I just fly, and see where it takes me.

[DinoDoc]

My dwarf attacker build

210 Acres - 700 Acres:
Homes: 40%
armouries:15%
Mines: 15%
Farms: 10%
Guilds: 10%
Towers: 5%
Stables: 5%

700 Acres and up:
Homes: 40%
Mines: 5%
Farms: 15%
Banks: 20%
Guilds: 10%
Towers: 5%
Stables: 5%

Please give me improvements to the build. Also, what is a good # of elites to have per acre, in order to both attack and defend?

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Why no homes?

Because Homes now require 10gc maintenance cost, per home, per hour.

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
My dwarf attacker build

210 Acres - 700 Acres:
Homes: 40%
armouries:15%
Mines: 15%
Farms: 10%
Guilds: 10%
Towers: 5%
Stables: 5%

700 Acres and up:
Homes: 40%
Mines: 5%
Farms: 15%
Banks: 20%
Guilds: 10%
Towers: 5%
Stables: 5%

Please give me improvements to the build. Also, what is a good # of elites to have per acre, in order to both attack and defend?

Cut on the Homes, with your low percentage of Armories and no Banks, you'll never have enough money.

205 - 500 acres
12% Farms
35% Armories
35% Banks
10% Guilds
05% Towers
03% Stables

This is what I would roughly suggest.
If you can get 3-4 Berzerkers per acre @ 300 acres
5-6 Berzerkers @ 400 acres
7-8 Berzerkers @ 500 acres
that would be strong.

BTW: are you on WoL?

[Eli]

Without homes, and with 100% util you will have 5 not working people per acre. Until 500 acres, it's enough to keep 1 TPA, 3EPA and the rest to wizards or exploring troops.
So you dont need homes.
500-1000 acres, you'll need something like 20-30DPA, and with 15% housing science you will have 8 free people per acre, which is enough for 1TPA, some WPA and 30DPA.
Remember, this is early age, DPAs can be much lower than in the mid age.
After 1000 acres, you will need some homes.

Now I remembered that you're an attacker. So you may need some homes after all. Anyway, if you're an explorer/paradiser you wont need homes until 1000+ acres.


I also changed my province name to Sanctuary of Bla Bla to fit the kingdom theme.

[Eli]

Here's my 500-1000 acres strat :

Armouries - 25%
Banks - 15%
Towers - 21%
Guilds - 10%
Hospitals - 6%
Universities - 15%
Farms - 8%

Unless my calculations are wrong, this is a high-money strategy, and the universities will allow me to keep high levels of science.
When on 500-750 acres, I will be able to have 20DPA and on 750-1000 acres, 25-30DPA, together with fast paradising of 40+ acres per day.
On 1000 acres I'll make a sci pump, and then consider the use of homes.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Zopperoni
205 - 500 acres
12% Farms
35% Armories
35% Banks
10% Guilds
05% Towers
03% Stables

Would this build work from 500 acres on? If not how would it need to be adjusted? Can an attacker really build population fast enough to sustain a large army?

This is what I would roughly suggest.
If you can get 3-4 Berzerkers per acre @ 300 acres
5-6 Berzerkers @ 400 acres
7-8 Berzerkers @ 500 acres
that would be strong.

Thanks for the info.

BTW: are you on WoL?

Yes, yes I am.

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Would this build work from 500 acres on? If not how would it need to be adjusted?

I'd reduce Armories and Banks and get Barracks and Hospitals for them.

Can an attacker really build population fast enough to sustain a large army?

I actually don't know with the changes made this age, but you could always run a strat on Prophet.

You can download it from www.utopiatemple.com
There are also other strats you can view on that site

[Makeo]

Originally posted by Chowlett
I just fly, and see where it takes me.

I'm with you.

[War4ever]

I am Fenway Park SoS again..... human warrior with a nice strat i have had some help with...... landed in 4:4 this age on WOU or whatever the new name is....

good luck to everyone in the new age

[Eli]

**** **** *****!!!

I forgot to set the draft rate and lost whole 5 hours of drafting!


But besides that, everything works great.

[War4ever]

dont feel bad..i dont' start drafting until the 12th hour this age! but thats part of my strat

[Eli]

Post your CBs!
(attacking people who post them here is forbidden )

The Province of Sanctuary of Bla Bla (13:16)
[http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.25 Beta]

Utopian Date: May 5th, YR0
RL Date: January 27th, 2002 (10:00 GMT)

Ruler Name: Mr. Eli the Sorcerer
Personality & Race: The Mystic, Elf
Land: 376 Acres
Money: 103,563gc
Food: 18,581 bushels
Runes: 1,370 runes
Population: 7,337 citizens (19.51 per Acre)
Peasants: 5,761 (87% Employed)
Jobs: 5,012 (110% Utilization)
Trade Balance: -117,910gc (8% tax rate)
Networth: 29,246 (77.78 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 1,837gc

Soldiers: 0 (19.9% estimated draft rate)
Heroes: 0
Archers: 0
Elf Lords: 1,283 (6,415 offense and defense)
War-Horses: 0
Prisoners: 0

Total Attack points: 6,415 (17.06 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 3,210 (8.54 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 6,415 (17.06 per Acre)
Practical (50% elites): 3,210 (8.54 per Acre)

[500 Acres land assumed for thieves calculation]
Thieves: 175 (0.35 per Acre / 100% Stealth)
Wizards: 118 (0.31 per Acre / 90% Mana)

Crystal-Ball on your province will show:
Maximum Possible Thieves: 306 (0.61 per Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 230 (0.46 per Acre)
Maximum Possible Wizards: 306 (0.81 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 72 (0.19 per Acre)

Buildings: 899gc to build, 459gc to raze
Away bonus: 28,805gc (12h) / 86,415gc (20h)

[Zopperoni]

The Province of Cabbage of Carnage (24:17)
[http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.25 Beta]

Utopian Date: May 8th, YR0
RL Date: January 27th, 2002 (13:00 GMT)

Ruler Name: Mr. Belthazor the Rogue
Personality & Race: The Rogue, Halfling
Land: 310 Acres
Money: 173,520gc
Food: 33,121 bushels
Runes: 2,967 runes
Population: 6,533 citizens (21.07 per Acre)
Peasants: 3,946 (100% Employed)
Jobs: 4,604 (108% Utilization, Possibly Mills)
Trade Balance: 0gc (0% tax rate)
Networth: 27,040 (87.23 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 5,506gc

Soldiers: 132 (37.3% estimated draft rate)
Spearmen: 0
Archers: 1,570 (6,280 defense points)
Half-Giants: 0
War-Horses: 0
Prisoners: 0

Total Attack points: 264 (0.85 per Acre)
Practical (60% elites): 264 (0.85 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 6,544 (21.11 per Acre)
Practical (40% elites): 6,544 (21.11 per Acre)

[500 Acres land assumed for thieves calculation]
Thieves: 733 (1.47 per Acre / 100% Stealth)
Wizards: 152 (0.49 per Acre / 100% Mana)

Crystal-Ball on your province will show:
Maximum Possible Thieves: 918 (1.84 per Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 688 (1.38 per Acre)
Maximum Possible Wizards: 918 (2.96 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 218 (0.70 per Acre)

Buildings: 431gc to build, 437gc to raze
Away bonus: 19,730gc (12h) / 59,190gc (20h)