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I'm not sure. I only kept track of the German Teams and that has not been since 1984. By the way, how do you guys get those quoted sections in your posts? I've tried but have not yet got the process figured out.
Ken
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WOW!.Strong British amatuer player John Owen used an opening like this in his match,with odds of pawn and move,against Morphy in 1858.He played P-QN3 though.Larsen used to play it also.The only thing that matters to me in a MP game is getting a good ally.Nothing else is as important.......Xin YuComment
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Smash,
That is the standard version of the Owen Defense. I'm using a variation of that Opening. And thanks for answering the question about who Owen was. As you can see from our previous posts neither of us knew.
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1 e4 … a6 1 P-K4 … P-QR3
2 d4 … b5 2 P-Q4 … P-QN4
3 Nf3 … Bb7 3 N-KB3 … B-QN2Comment
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Smash, thanks for the historical informations. I know some about the history of the game, but this Owen I really didn't know.
Ken, have you played a new move ? If yes, I haven't noticed it in the last replies. If no, don't panic, one move every day or two is definitely ok.
The game so far : e4/a6/d4/b5/Nf3/Bb7 and 4 Bd3.
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Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - GoetheOh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - GoetheComment
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With apologies to any Catholics out there...
Hail, Mary, full of grace.
Take me out of this crazy place!
a6?
b5??
Owen???
Lord have mercy, who have I fallen in league with here? I repeat an earlier statement, whatever happened to a simple Queens Gambit or Giuoco Piano?
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Frodo lives!Frodo lives!Comment
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Sorry about that Julius. I missed your last move yesterday and have been waiting for you. I'm fairly tied up right now but with have the move posted within the next two hours.
kcbob, I've heard of the piano, but have never played it. When you are as out of practice as I am you need to dredge up something that will put these Hot Young players off their game. Therefore the obscure confusing openings. I thought about using h3, but didn't want Julius to think I was being insulting.
Ken
[This message has been edited by Ken Hinds (edited December 19, 2000).]Comment
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1 e4 … a6 1 P-K4 … P-QR3
2 d4 … b5 2 P-Q4 … P-QN4
3 Nf3 … Bb7 3 N-KB3 … B-QN2
4 Bd3 … Nf6 4 B-Q3 … N-KB3
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1 e4 … a6 1 P-K4 … P-QR3
2 d4 … b5 2 P-Q4 … P-QN4
3 Nf3 … Bb7 3 N-KB3 … B-QN2
4 Bd3 … Nf6 4 B-Q3 … N-KB3
5 Nbd2 … 5 N1-Q2Oh Man, when will you understand that your greatness lies in your failure - GoetheComment
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This I like: An opponent that follows the script that they are given. Transposed a couple of moves, but that's no big deal.
1 e4 … a6 1 P-K4 … P-QR3
2 d4 … b5 2 P-Q4 … P-QN4
3 Nf3 … Bb7 3 N-KB3 … B-QN2
4 Bd3 … Nf6 4 B-Q3 … N-KB3
5 Nbd2 … e6 5 N1-Q2 … P-K3Comment
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Originally posted by Ken Hinds on 12-19-2000 01:20 AMI thought about using h3, but didn't want Julius to think I was being insulting.
Ken
LOL!
Reminds me of an opening called "The Spike". It's played by white and the first move is g4, aka, P-KN4. It's supposed to say to your opponent, 'See with what contempt I hold you. I can make any move I desire, even to the point of destroying my King's side defense, and you are helpless to do anything about it.'
I imagine the next game I play in rotation, my opponent will probably open with "The Spike".
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Originally posted by Ken Hinds on 12-19-2000 01:20 AM
Sorry about that Julius. I missed your last move yesterday and have been waiting for you. I'm fairly tied up right now but with have the move posted within the next two hours.
Ken
[This message has been edited by Ken Hinds (edited December 19, 2000).]
Don't worry, it's no game of speed. It's not a 5 minutes blitz or stuff like that.
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Originally posted by kcbob on 12-19-2000 07:57 AM
Reminds me of an opening called "The Spike". It's played by white and the first move is g4, aka, P-KN4. It's supposed to say to your opponent, 'See with what contempt I hold you. I can make any move I desire, even to the point of destroying my King's side defense, and you are helpless to do anything about it.'
I imagine the next game I play in rotation, my opponent will probably open with "The Spike".
1 g4 is called the Grob, I believe. Its best variation : 1 g4 e5, 2 f3 Qh4 mate.
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Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida on 12-19-2000 10:27 AM
1 g4 is called the Grob, I believe. Its best variation : 1 g4 e5, 2 f3 Qh4 mate.
What you are listing here, Julius, is the true "Fool's Mate". "The Spike" is to be played in a serious mode from the point of g4 on. I sure wouldn't want to try to open with it and then win.
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Frodo lives!Frodo lives!Comment
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Originally posted by Ken Hinds on 12-19-2000 01:20 AM
kcbob, I've heard of the piano, but have never played it. When you are as out of practice as I am you need to dredge up something that will put these Hot Young players off their game. Therefore the obscure confusing openings. I thought about using h3, but didn't want Julius to think I was being insulting.
[This message has been edited by Ken Hinds (edited December 19, 2000).]
Psychological warfare at its best ! No move as never insulted anybody. Play as you will Ken. Besides, I've got a better score in the Giuco Piano as in this Sub-Owen variation (0 victories in 0 games so far).
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