Good/bad news for future D&D CRPGs

[Grumbold]

Re: Good/bad news for future D&D CRPGs

Originally posted by Jamski
BTW, is that you that posts on there sometimes Grumbold?

I am lurking just about everywhere that strategy and RPG games get discussed

[Grumbold]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
While that's true, I can't find a parallel in human history. No forms of energy had been harnessed on a large scale before we first understood how it works.

Not on massive scale, but there have been cities with natural gas lamps or natural hot springs for baths. The Greeks discovered and then lost naptha. Archimedes invented many devices. Some so poorly understood that despite their description in accounts of the siege of Syracuse they have never been recreated.

In a fantasy world of poor written records and no international co-operation its quite understandable to have one faction with technology that another faction would percieve as spiritual or magical in origin.

[Jamski]

I am lurking just about everywhere that strategy and RPG games get discussed

I thought I recognised the name, and the style was very much yours

-Jam

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Tuberski
Can you say Hydrogen bomb?

Both the atomic bomb and hydrogen bomb were based on Relativity, published in 1905.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Jamski
Bags of Holding, for example. Imagine if everyone had one of these to go shopping, it would be so practical. And at home I'd want a Cupboard of Holding too. And a permanant tiny portal to the plane of fire as a heating element, the spell "Light" enchanted on a item with unlimited charges, instead of using candles.

Its not really "technology" but its using magic in everyday ways to get the job done better/faster/less effort, so it fills the same rolé as technology does in our world.

I don't deny this.

You can't have a rail system, say, without finding out how things work first. You simply can't power the trains, sychronise the dispatches, and so forth.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
At any rate, the fun thing about Shadowrun etc. is the conflict and tension between technology and magic. IOW, you are not limited to one or the other - both path works, each with its own strength and limitations.

I still find this more interesting than having everything run on magic.

[Felch]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
I don't deny this.

You can't have a rail system, say, without finding out how things work first. You simply can't power the trains, sychronise the dispatches, and so forth.

It's possible to be able to predict something without understanding it. Gravity has been predictable since Newton, but even today it's still not completely understood.

But it's a silly argument to begin with, and I'll just leave it at that.

[Jamski]

You can't have a rail system, say, without finding out how things work first. You simply can't power the trains, sychronise the dispatches, and so forth.

Of course you can.

The train is made from steel/wood/whatever, shaped by magic. Then its made to fly. Then imprisoned air elementals are forced to push it through the air in a straight line. Then you fly it between 2 towns every day and take 5 gold coins a trip.

Another wizard sees how much you're making and does the same...

You don't need the technological knowledge if you have the magical skills.

-Jam

[GhengisFarb™]

Its doesn't need to be explained, its "magic."

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Jamski
They're talking about "working class wizards" who slave all day to enchant household items for a minimum wage.

Not that I'm laughing at them

-Jam

Can anyone say house elves?

[Dis]

I'm all for different settings and all that.

But not a rpg?

RPG's seem to be hurting a little bit now. Sure we had Morrowind recently (which I have mixed feelings about). And Neverwinter Nights may be finished for expansions (although there is talk of releasing more content on a pay for content service, but it's still the same game). No Fallout 3.

Foreign companies may have to pick up the slack. As a french company did with Arx Fatalis. I still haven't picked up this game yet, but I've heard good things. I didn't see this game at Best Buy, so I couldn't get it. I may have to go back to Fry's to get it.

Although there is supposed to be a new Ultima game coming out I think. I admit I have not played an Ultima game since Ultima IV. So I'm not that familiar with them.

And mmorpg's. *yawn*

[Jamski]

Well, there's been hints of making another NWN expansion, since the last one sold so massively (sold much better than C3C ) so if that is as good as or better than HotU, then there'll be something there. And there's some gossip about the rights for Jefferson being sold to someone (since the game was 90% finished and a sure fire seller)

We need not fear too much.

-Jam

[lord of the mark]

i was trying to hint that techonology powered by magic sounds very Harry Potterish.

[Jamski]

Not really. Magic is really secret in the Harry Potter world. Imagine everyone had magic flying cars and it was perfectly normal...

-Jam

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Jamski
Not really. Magic is really secret in the Harry Potter world. Imagine everyone had magic flying cars and it was perfectly normal...

-Jam

Ok, Harry Potter with no muggles.

POTM and i recently had a discussion of why Hogwarts has no elevators but the Ministry of Magic DOES have them (magical elevators, I guess)