Temple of Elemental Etc

[Snotty]

Overall its not too bad. Theres some replayability in making different classes follow different paths with their feats and what not.

I never found to bugs too much of a problem until the unthinkable happened. Near the end of the game I cast teleport to get me back to town, and it hangs. No big deal I think, but my auto save loads at the moment it hangs....grr...... I load my quick save and.....NO.....A bug means its always the comps turn to move, and it doesnt

No save other than my auto save and my quick save! How tragic.

[Grumbold]

Ouch!

Its a very very bad idea in any game to rely totally on autosaves. Sorry you had to find out the hard way on this one.

[DrSpike]

Also the quicksave key is often next to the quickload key. It is easy to get pasted down to 1 health, then accidentally save instead of load. And if your autosave has also updated after the pasting you are screwed!

Always hard save at the start of each chapter.

[Jamski]

Yep, done that one I mean quickload? What were they thinking of?

-Jam

[DrSpike]

I would never do anything so stupid. That time I did a huge chunk of half-life with 3 health was just to prove it could be done, not because I clumsily hit the wrong key.

[Snotty]

Originally posted by Grumbold
Ouch!

Its a very very bad idea in any game to rely totally on autosaves. Sorry you had to find out the hard way on this one.

I guess you arent hardcore enough to play just auto save?

The ironman mode in ToEE is quite good, however I cant even begin to imagine what I would do if that save got bugged.

Unfortunatly there is a way around the ironman limitation if your characters die, but you get bumped back to the last auto save. Its a pain they couldnt cover this very simple work around

[Grumbold]

On balance its probably just ass well considering how many people are ranting about the odd bug preventing them completing an iron man game.

The last time I forgot to manually save at intervals I lost 125 years of an EU2 game that turned out had not been autosaving properly. I try to make sure that never happens to me again

[Jamski]

Second Unoffical Patch is Out!

-Jam

[General Ludd]

Is the first official patch out yet?

[Jamski]

Nope (silly Atari QA people delaying it)

I have to admit, that despite my scorn earlier, I'm actually having a reasonable amount of fun playing ToEE. OK, the quests are totally broken and the story is non-exisitant, but the combat is pretty cool. You can just waltz around and kill everyone, which is nice

The quests ARE sooooo broken though

-Jam

[Harry Seldon]

Are quests on the first official patch list of fixes? I can't imagine playing a DnD game without side quests.

[Jamski]

The side quests are there, Harry, but most of them don't work The game was intended to be hack and slash anyway

-Jam

[Harry Seldon]

That's what I meant. I don't mind the hack and slash but I like the the minquests to break the monotony of a long campaign. Maybe it's the Final Fantasy in me.

[Grumbold]

Just about every quest has worked for me, Jam, they just haven't been exciting in a Fallout kind of way. There's enough of them at the beginning to get to level 2 without fighting if you work at it, which makes the moathouse a lot easier. After that they thin out a lot, but there's quite a few in the temple if you aren't playing a kick-open-the-doors-die-scum-Holy-Avenger-of-Doom approach

[LDiCesare]

Any idea if the removed brothel will somehow be downloadable? That or extra quests? I don't think there is an editor, as Troika said they focused on the module itself (had a tight deadline if I read correctly).
I played the 6 hours-Kazaa version, and this game looks like what I expected, but probably not up to Arcanum level.
I'll get it when it's available in France.
I wish there was a game like Morrowind but with the dialogue options as in Arcanum...