Temple of Elemental Etc

[CygnusZ]

Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
The comments in game forums are always really negative. The week after the game comes out 99% of the people who enjoy it are too busy playing it to go and argue with whiners on some forum.

That's not really true, directly after a game comes out the comments are positive because people really want to enjoy the game. Think about what happened at the Apolyton upon the release of Civilization 3.

It's important to listen the critics and filter out which ones are making complaints which you feel are valid to yourself. Those whom have played longer can point out the exact faults and save you the pain of discovering you don't like the game after 10 hours.

[Jamski]

I really should learn never to buy a game untill at least the first patch is released... its almost impossible to tes a game properly these days, and the "open beta" of thousands of gamers playing it is just a standard part of the development as far as I can see. Then after the patch I should read all the reveiws.

Trouble is, I start to really look forward to games (like this one, like MoO3....etc) and then I have to get them as soon as possible. Well, I'm going to "wait and see" now after reading the comment on the Atari boards.

-Jam

[Harry Seldon]

If everyone took a first patch policy I bet some games would never get patched, though. My memory fails me but surely there have been a few games that stank when they first came out and became good games after some prodigenous patching. It takes patsies like us to make better games for the rest of mankind.

[Araanor]

TOEE is neat. Finally a decent turn-based RPG.. Haven't seen any major bugs, SecuROM is probably messing up for a lot of people. Yeah, the picking out the children sucks. Bloody Atari/Hasbro/WOTC.

[Harry Seldon]

Why would they take the children out? I don't understand how this would affect the rating system.

[korn469]

Harry,

afaik there are certain counties (maybe just the UK) in europe that forbids having depictions of children in games, this was an issue with one of the localized versions of Fallout or Fallout 2...so if I had to pick a reason I would say that is it

[Araanor]

Remember how Troika do their games, you can kill anyone. Including children. I can see how this would up the rating... It's also possible they were forced to remove some gore.

[Harry Seldon]

Ah, the Moo3 green blood scenario. That stinks. I wish they'd left in the kids for the american version. Then everybody wins. Except those damn kids, if they're anything like their Fallout counterparts.

[Araanor]

Snippet from a recent chat organized by RPG Codex:

Exitium] [Mearas] Besides removing the kids, has the game been altered in any other signigicant way as a result of switching ratings?
[TimCain] Yes. Several dialogs and quests were removed entirely, as were some characters.
[[Troika]Tom] One whole map with side quests, the brothel in Nulb, was removed
[ReAnimator] ouch!
[TimCain] Plus, Tom said some bad words in a few dialogs...
[TimCain]
[[troika]hnguyen]
[[Troika]Steve] Code was generally untouched for the censors, so I had smooth sailing.
[[troika]hnguyen] i wish the bad words were still in
[TimCain] Also, you will notice that **** Rentsch is now just Rentsch
[[Troika]Tom] Tim used a bad word once, too!
[TimCain] I did?
[ReAnimator] I had to cover up some private areas on some models
[[Troika]Steve] Because Richard is such a horrible name to name someone.
[[troika]hnguyen] LOL
* TimCain says "Done"


Argh!

[Jamski]

The official bug list for this game is growing at an alarming rate...

(I just checked the Atari site)


-Jam

[pg]

anyone get it? it looks interesting but i'm very leery of most computer games nowadays(been burned too many times).

[Jamski]

I'm waiting for a patch...

A quick skim through other forums that concentrate on RPGs has revealed MASSES of bugs and flawed design features, not to mention Atari cuts.

BE WARNED!

Apparently its mostly playable with the use of workarounds and as long as you don't care about some of the features not working properly...

/me waits for a patch (like he should have done for MoO3) *

-Jam

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Araanor
SecuROM is probably messing up for a lot of people

Copy protected? Damn them! Do I look like a thief?

Guess I won't buy this game.

[DrSpike]

I read the review for Temple last night on gamespot.............they seem to think it has a few bugs but if this genre is your bag you'll enjoy the game.

[Araanor]

I still think it's a good game, problems or not.