Temple of Elemental Etc

[Araanor]

"Shallow" dungeon crawler? For being a dungeon crawler it's anything but shallow.

There's a patch confirmed now.

[Harry Seldon]

What, for download, or just that they're going to put one out?

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Araanor
"Shallow" dungeon crawler? For being a dungeon crawler it's anything but shallow.

There's a patch confirmed now.

Does it add another 15 hours of gameplay?

[Jamski]

Yes, you can play it twice

-Jam

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Jamski
Yes, you can play it twice

-Jam

Wow, what a great new feature!

/me rushes to shops.

[Grumbold]

I'm thoroughly enjoying it right now, despite the quirks (I hesitate to call them bugs when they don't stop me playing, just do things like make NPC followers a pain in the arse) but I'd definitely recommend waiting for the patch if you are thin skinned. Most of the bug list is concerned with things like masterwork armour subtracting 1 from your manoeuver rolls instead of adding it. No biggie for me, and the fan network is rushing out fixes for this sort of stuff already.

It is definitely THE best D&D implementation since the old gold box games imho. I want to see dozens more using this engine, it beats IE, NWN and the LH engines hollow. Being a recreation of an old Greyhawk module ToEE is not exactly hip deep in convoluted dialogue. The censors seem to have nobbled a lot of what Troika tried to add to the original, but their party alignment certainly leaves much scope for replaying.

I don't understand how you could play it through in 15 hours. Maybe you're just better at putting together uber D&D parties than I am and wading through the enemy? After 15 hours I was sneaking round the second level of the temple.

[Harry Seldon]

From what it sounds like, this game plays alot like Fallout 2 pre-patch; playable but barely. Still waiting for the patch.

[Jamski]

I don't understand how you could play it through in 15 hours. Maybe you're just better at putting together uber D&D parties than I am and wading through the enemy? After 15 hours I was sneaking round the second level of the temple.

I did spend some time re-rolling to get übercharacters, but its time saved on massive re-loading.

And yes, I AM quite good at making überparties, I have to admit. I just HATE having a party of gimps

So that's 15 hours to play through, not counting rerolls, CTD when enchanting items, reloads after bloody giant frogs for an hour (cool animation, I have to admit) and so on.

Actually, I'm kinda slowly warming to the game. Its a flawed work with a great "feel" to it. But as a "rules demon" I'm getting really ratty about all the things that don't work either as they should in the core rules, or as they were intended to work in the game.

BUT A PATCH IS COMING! YAY!

-Jam

[Grumbold]

Looks like the fan patch is out and fixes a lot of the niggles. It also makes NPC's take only a share of the gold and not grab items. Downloading now!

[Jamski]

Link?

-Jam

[Grumbold]

Circle of Eight Fan patch/mod 1.0

[Jamski]

Thanks Grumbold. This CO8 guys are the bee's knees, really

-Jam

[Harry Seldon]

So what's the post patch verdict?

[Jamski]

I have to admit I've been distracted by the recent acquisition of Hearts of Iron - a "rebound" after ToEE. Tell you soon, after I get Barbarossa finished

-Jam

[Grumbold]

I've been playing it like crazy. Its not a classic game but I'm very pleased with it all the same. Had Troika had the time to go wild on conversation and side quest stuff like in Arcanum it would be near perfect.