new magic idea

[Urban Ranger]

It should run.

[Jon Miller]

maybe you downloaded the wrong thing??

I know I did the first time

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

I don't know how to run the draft software

but the apprentice program is downloaded and running (as is the draft software, I just don't know how to use it)

UJon Miller

[Urban Ranger]

I have it running too. I think you might have to connect to another player before doing the draft thing.

Edit: it's not a draft it's a sealed deck generator.

[Urban Ranger]

The generator apparently doesn't work. I keep getting an index out of bounds error.

[Jon Miller]

I like playing constructed (That is what I played mostly)

it was cool seeing someone com eup with a new deck (With their limited cards) and than others moving to respond

actually the best guy (who won the most) had one of the most limited selections of cards (he bought cards maybe twice a year and most cards that he bought were commons (he would occasionally buy a particular rare or uncommon)

all those who bought cards were constantly responding to his decks

the decks that people spent the longest time responding to was a control deck which had

8 flag bearer, 4 mothers of the rune, and 2 of those shamans that allow you to pull damage to themselves or put it on others

some of the reason why I wanted to come up with cards for everyone and to allow people to trade (and to get some of the earlier cards too) is that I wanted that same atmosphere

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

well ther eis another generator that you can download from that site (not the one inside of apprentice)

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

hmm

what we could do is have virtual money

and then use some sort of online store in order to buy our fantasy cards

Jon Miller

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
well ther eis another generator that you can download from that site (not the one inside of apprentice)

Jon Miller

Oh yes, that one. Try it tomorrow. Bed calls

[SnowFire]

For Drafting, there's a program called "NetDraft," but I've never tried it, and even if it does work, we'd all have to be online at the same time. Could be annoying.

As for "Win32" errors... yeah, I got those the first time I tried to use the program. However, the first time I tried to use it was just my roommate sending me the files and trying to run it straight. I downloaded the .zip file from the Internet and then it ran fine.

I don't have WinME though, so I'm not sure. Can ME emulate 98? You can also always try downloading it from somewhere else (Google "Apprentice download").

As for index out of bounds error... um, this always happen? Sometimes it gets screwy when adding in extra basic lands, but the generation has always worked for me. You aren't trying to make it generate 100 starter packs or something else ridiculous, are you?

Jon Miller: Well, hopefully we can all get Apprentice up and running so we don't need a GM (and can just use Apprentice to connect to each other and play that way), but if we want to do sealed and it still doesn't work for UR, somebody can just generate his cards on a version where it does work and send it to him.

Alternatively, in order to insure fair pricing, we can just crack open some booster packs and have people bid on the cards within. Everybody gets a $100, the GM cracks a booster pack and announces the cards in it to everyone, silent bids are submitted to a GM, whoever bid the highest on each card gets it (and if a card had no one bid on it, for some odd reason, it carries over to the next pack opened to be bid on again there). As a warning, this could be rather time-consuming: say with 6 players, we'd want to bid on 18 packs, so fast response would be helpful. Or we could just crack 2-3 packs at a time.

[Jon Miller]

the last suggestoin would not allow for palyign with old cards (which many of us wish to do)

other than that it is good

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

we coudl use this

http://www.anycraze.com/magicsearch.asp

Jon Miller

[SnowFire]

JM: Completely false. The Sealed Deck generator in Apprentice doesn't care that you give out long out-of-print boosters to generate- you can make Unlimited, Arabian Nights, & Revised Booster packs all day if you wanted.

Now if you're talking about ANY old card, then we might as well play "constructed" Type I where we can just choose whatever card we want. Let me assure you that "pricing" 6,000 magic cards is not a feat you want to take up. Even if you were to grab "real" prices, they wouldn't reflect what they're worth in a limited enviornment- Terror goes for 25 cents or less, and that rules for Limited play (the reason it's so cheap is because it's useless against Black or creatureless decks in constructed, which exist a decent amount, and that it was a common for a loong time).

Mind you I have no problem with Constructed Type I play, but be warned, there are many evil decks that can be made there that take control of the game by about turn 3. For fairness's sake (for those who don't want to research these decks), I'd rather do Sealed play. Which again, if you want to play Sealed with old cards, is quite possible.

[Jon Miller]

Yah

I understand that there is evilness in constructed

I guess what I want is casual play

where resources are limited (among 10 people there might be only 4 asassins) but cards from every era are used

is there any easy way to do this?

otherwise we can do the sealed deck thing

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

also

I am not able to draft anything but alpha using apprentice

Jon Miller