new magic idea

[Daz]

common deck - only commons - no uncommons or rares

[Daz]

what about sideboard? 10, 15, none?

[Jon Miller]

hmm

when I was looking at that price list its seemed that any good rare was 10ish dollars

that is where the 100 came from

also with the 1/3/9 distribution and the 400 cards, I figured things would be devided fairly well

Jon Miller

[Daz]

missunderstanding! You said 100$ for 400 cards. They think 100$ per deck. 100$ for 400 cards is ok. Someone please set up the rules:

Deck size (60)
Sideboard (if any)
How many cards do we choose (just the deck or 400 and then make deck out of those 400)?
..for how much $
What editions?

[DinoDoc]

OK tell me if this fits within the requirements:

Originally posted by obiwan18
1 Common Deck

1 Primoc Escapee
3 Birchlore Ranger
1 Brontotherium
4 Fierce Empath
1 Gempalm Strider
1 Krosan Drover
1 Krosan Groundshaker
1 Needleshot Gourna
1 Patron of the Wild
3 Timberwatch Elf
1 Titanic Bulvox
1 Venomspout Brackus
1 Wellwisher
4 Wirewood Elf
4 Wirewood Guardian
4 Wirewood Herald
1 Wirewood Savage
4 Wirewood Symbiote
1 Woodcloaker
19 Forest
3 Wirewood Lodge

I know this has no rares but I have no idea about uncommons.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Daz
missunderstanding! You said 100$ for 400 cards. They think 100$ per deck. 100$ for 400 cards is ok. Someone please set up the rules:

Deck size (60)
Sideboard (if any)
How many cards do we choose (just the deck or 400 and then make deck out of those 400)?
..for how much $
What editions?

I was thinnking

100 for 400 cards

deck size 60

sure sideboard (any nonused cards)

as many as you want over 400 (make deck with those cards)

100 dollars

1/3/9 ratio (at the least oyu must have 3 uncommons for every rare and 3 commons for every uncommon)

any editions

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

at least that is what I would like to suggest (Since that would seem to approximate my real expereince best)

if people want to do other things that is coolalso

and a common deck is made all of commons, no uncommons or rares

Jon Miller

[Urban Ranger]

No sealed decks? I much prefer sealed decks.

[Jon Miller]

well

I had a commons deck I was making

it had

4 tranquilities **
4 lanowar elves ***
4 seeker of stonebreaks **
4 wood elves **
4 giant growths *

4 wirewood heralds ***
4 well wishers ***
4 taunting elves ***
4 elvish pioneers ***
4 elvish warriors ***
4 elvish guidances **

4 defiant elves ***
4 patrons of the wild **
4 timberwatch elves ***
4 stonewood envokers **
4 nantuko vigiliantes **

4 fireballs ***

Deck would be than
4 fireballs
4 nantuko vigiliantes
4 timberwatch elves
4 defiant elves
4 lanowar elves
4 wirewood heralds
4 taunting elves
4 well wishers
4 elvish pioneers
4 elvish warriors
4 elvish guidances
6 mountains
10 forests

I probably should check back over that, but it seems right

and it woudl be made a lot better with a couple of coat of arms

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
No sealed decks? I much prefer sealed decks.

like where people pull a starter and two boosters and amke a deck?

that is alright, and I would play it

but I prefer constructed with resources

as in yu can't get everythign (or enar everything), but you can still plan out what decks you make with a limited selection of cards

it is just that the standard sealed deck gives too limited

I would be interested in a sealed card deal

where instead of buy specific cards you bought starters or boosters, and than added those into your card collection

one of the things I like is the looking over a limited selection of cards (where often the best fit for the deck does not exist in your collection, nor does the second best), and so you have to work with your cards to make an idea work

Jon Miller

[Urban Ranger]

Okay, here's my common deck "Goblins Rampage"

Mountains x20
Mons' Goblin Raiders x4
Goblin Digging Team x4
Raging Goblin x4
Goblin Masons x4
Goblin Shrine x4
Goblins of the Flarg x4
Goblin Caves x4
Goblin Chirurgeon x4
Goblin Grenade x4
Goblin Elite Infantry x4

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by obiwan18
Make three decks for 100$,

1 Common Deck
1 Multi-colour deck
1 Mono-colour deck.

So hop to it!
You have no other restrictions other than the WotC Type 1 restricted list.

Could a mono deck includes artifacts and non-basic lands as well? I say we should.

Also, other than the common deck, no deck can be more than twice as expensive as other decks.

[SnowFire]

Okay, I'm confused. I still don't like the 100 dollar idea, but sure. Instead of increasing the confusion, I'm going to go with Obi-Wan's idea and hope everyone follows: 100 dollars split among 3 decks.

For Mono-Color, I always liked my Master Apocethary deck. I could be cheap-ass and get all sorts of cheap Shadow creatures from Tempest to improve it (Hello Soltari Priest & Monk!), but I'll resist the temptation. This is just my deck straight-up, and it's Type II legal, for what it's worth.

18 Plains
1 Starlit Sanctum
4 Secluded Steppe
1 Disenchant
1 Serra Angel
1 Wrath of God
1 Chastise
2 Intrepid Hero
1 Akroma's Blessing
1 Lieutenant Kirtar
1 Commander Eesha
2 Exalted Angel
2 Battle Screech
1 Divine Sacrament
3 Glorious Anthem
4 Master Apothecary
4 Whipcorder
4 Beloved Chaplain
4 Benevolent Bodyguard
2 Nova Cleric
2 Weathered Wayfarer

It seems we're ignoring sideboards, but it's got COP Green & Black, more Intrepid Heroes, more disenchants, and some graveyard removal.

I estimate this deck's cost at 58 or so dollars, mostly because of the Wrath & 2 Exalted Angels.

Multicolor... hmm, there's a silly combo with Erratic Explosion (reveal cards from the top of your library till you hit a non-land: then do damage to target creature or player based off its Converted Casting cost) & Draco (which costs 16 colorless to put into play, but not really). You use Brainstorm or Scroll Rack to insure that Draco is on top of your library, then, Kaboom! I hear some people actually use this deck in Extended. Here's my version.

4 Erratic Explosion
3 Draco
2 Scroll Rack
4 Counterspell
4 Mana Leak
4 Brainstorm
4 Sleight of Hand
4 Fire/Ice
2 Earthquake
2 Memory Lapse
2 Pyroclasm
17 Island
8 Mountain

Hmm.. this comes out to around 35 dollars by my estimate.

For an all-commons deck, I think that Black-Red burn'em up sounds good to me. Tempest has some really nice additions here.

4 Lightning Bolt
4 Incinerate
4 Firebolt
3 Mogg Fanatic
3 Suq'Ata Lancer
3 Duress
4 Carnophage
4 Fallen Askari
4 Dauthi Horror
2 Erg Raiders
4 Terminate
11 Mountain
10 Swamp

Originally added Acidic Sliver, but that was uncommon. I estimate this deck to be around 25 dollars, and ironically, might be the best of all of them.

Hmm, as expected, this is a bit over 100 dollars, at 118. So time to slim down my Apocethary deck. Cut the Wrath of God & 2 Exalted Angels (saving a good 30 dollars) plus the Chastise and add in instead
1 Atalya, Samite Master
3 Swords to Plowshares.
Which costs a mere 4 dollars according to that source (Odd, I would have valued this around 13- Swords really only goes for a dollar?! It was an uncommon, but a very good one, so I'd say it's worth 4).

Hmm, now I have an additonal 11 dollars to spend. Well, we can strengthen up the mana base on my Red/Blue deck. Change it from 17 Islands / 8 Mountains to
14 Islands
5 Mountains
4 Shivan Reef
(the 4 reefs cost 9 bucks, according to the site)
Freeing up an additional 2 slots for... um... 2 Lighting Bolts! Sure, why not, when in doubt.

So final price tally is 32 dollars for Master Apocethary, 46 dollars for Draco Explosion, and 25 dollars for Fire & Brimstone. Which is actually a wee bit above 100. Oops, oh well, I'll correct it later, don't know how that happened.

My ICQ # is 35476699. My AIM Screename is Snowflame. If you've thrown together a deck in this format- or just want to make Sealed decks on Apprentice and play that way- give me a ring.

[SnowFire]

Hmph, and actually calculating the price of my commons deck, I see once again that they low-ball the prices. It's 15 dollars, not 25, so that's an extr 10 in the bank. Are these buying prices, I wonder? Or maybe just closer to the true cost, instead of actual selling over the Internet price.
Oh well, remove the Serra Angel and turn her into an Exalted Angel then. Hopefully this will be the last adjustment.

[Urban Ranger]

Hm, I think you can only have 4 of each card? So you can't have 6 lightning bolts.