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  • #166
    Originally posted by Fez
    Kontiki, I am like Menem. A person with a double edge to try to change people from illogical leftism.

    I do not support strong law enforcement and heavy interference with the economy. It is either the free market or coercion. I want a fragmented private owned healthcare, education systems with government subsidies as a possiblitity.

    As socialism is an illegal form of government, I would rather see a transparency, not a heavy handed Stalinist system as you propose.

    I HATE all socialist policies. They will send things to hell in the handbasket.
    I knew the new form of Fez wouldn(t last two days
    "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
    "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
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    • #167
      Hahahahahaha... tricked yah! You get a few serious sentences out of me.. and I get all wacky...

      Anyways, I do like Menem. He is a great person and a great statesman. President Menem that is.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #168
        Originally posted by Fez
        Kontiki, I am like Menem. A person with a double edge to try to change people from illogical leftism.

        I do not support strong law enforcement and heavy interference with the economy. It is either the free market or coercion. I want a fragmented private owned healthcare, education systems with government subsidies as a possiblitity.

        As socialism is an illegal form of government, I would rather see a transparency, not a heavy handed Stalinist system as you propose.

        I HATE all socialist policies. They will send things to hell in the handbasket.
        I'm not proposing any system, let alone a "heavy handed Stalinist system". I'm just citing you. YOU claimed you supported monitoring of corporations and strict law enforcement. YOU said, and I quote, "I don't see anything socialist about governent spending in healthcare, education and transportation....I never advocated against it".

        Now, you are claiming "either free market or coercion" as if it were an either or option. So which is it? A free market with no government intervention - in which case, Enron did nothing illegal (remember, they didn't kill anyone or steal any property, they violtated securities legislation)- or coercion? And if you HATE all socialist policies, how can you possibly support any form of government subsidies in education, health care or transportation? You'd have to be a libertarian and support the exclusive use of user fees - anything else, by definition, is a socialist policy.
        "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
        "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
        "I wish I had gay sex in the boy scouts" - Dissident

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        • #169
          I supported strict law enforcement? Okay.. lets get this down right the first time.

          What I support... whatever I said before that contradicts this is invalid.

          1) Privatized Health and Education Systems
          2) Privatized Insurance
          3) Reduced State Size
          4) Decentralized State
          5) Reduced Pensions for civil employees, but marginally more benefits for them during their service
          6) Minimal Government interference.. only busting a corp exec when they do something bad.. in the case of Enron.
          7) ZERO coercion
          8) Defamation of Socialism
          9) Forget it... no subsidies... only for business.

          So this is what I want.

          A strong corporatist system.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #170
            Originally posted by Fez
            I supported strict law enforcement? Okay.. lets get this down right the first time.

            What I support... whatever I said before that contradicts this is invalid.

            1) Privatized Health and Education Systems
            2) Privatized Insurance
            3) Reduced State Size
            4) Decentralized State
            5) Reduced Pensions for civil employees, but marginally more benefits for them during their service
            6) Minimal Government interference.. only busting a corp exec when they do something bad.. in the case of Enron.
            7) ZERO coercion
            8) Defamation of Socialism
            9) Forget it... no subsidies... only for business.

            So this is what I want.

            A strong corporatist system.
            Alright, so just to be clear, this is now your position? Everything you've said up until this point is crap then? Should we assume that this trend will continue into other threads?
            "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
            "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
            "I wish I had gay sex in the boy scouts" - Dissident

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            • #171
              Sorry.. I kinda had a little too much wine.. but those 9 points is what I think. My official position.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #172
                Originally posted by Fez
                A strong corporatist system.
                Do you even know what corporatism is?
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                • #173
                  Originally posted by *End Is Forever*


                  Do you even know what corporatism is?
                  Where the corporation has a strong hand in the government.

                  "Of or relating to a government or political system in which the principal economic functions, such as banking, industry, labor, and government, are organized as corporate entities."

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                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #174
                    I´m usually left-wing, a sorry mess of green, anarchist and communist ideas But sever bouts of depression lately has made me somewhat nihilistic, I don´t think anything matters much anymore. Everything just turns to **** in the end anyway...
                    I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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                    • #175
                      You know.. believe it or not.. in the past two months.. politics has played an ever decreasing role in my life...
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #176
                        I´m sure you´ve had a lot of other things on your mind...
                        I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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                        • #177
                          Originally posted by Fez
                          You know.. believe it or not.. in the past two months.. politics has played an ever decreasing role in my life...
                          You don't need politics anymore. You have your own "Ten Commandments"... I mean, Nine.

                          One more, to make this a round number?
                          RIAA sucks
                          The Optimistas
                          I'm a political cartoonist

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                          • #178
                            Certainly... knowing how I would deal with the prom with my relationship... it is the first of its kind...

                            Politics.. bah... just causes arguments..
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • #179
                              And relationships don´t?
                              I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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                              • #180
                                Well this is with my bestfriend who happens to be a guy...
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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