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  • #91
    And here is why....

    http://fpeng.peopledaily.com.cn/200010/09/eng20001009_52131.html


    South Korea's total volume of exports to China in the eight months was 24.4 billion dollars, up 34.9 percent from the year-ago level, while imports stood at 12.15 billion, up 58.6 percent.
    Not the $40 billion, I thought but still highly substantial, and growing rapidly.

    Edit: Oops that link is too old...

    Here is a better one: http://www.uschina.org/statistics/ch...rformance.html



    Why China will probably want South Korea, Japan and US to stay safe...
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #92
      all in all, however, i don't think china has the will--or the balls--to ever invade nkorea.

      they'd win, of course, but they'd also probably lose a lot of good will with skorea, and possibly even japan.
      B♭3

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      • #93
        Well Qcubed, look at that chart. I think the will is denoted by the terms in dollars.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • #94
          eh... i don't think hong kong should count in that last chart, imho...
          B♭3

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          • #95
            yes, but fez-- i don't think skoreans will take too kindly to nkorea being invaded by non-koreans...
            B♭3

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            • #96
              Hong Kong is just listed to show the trade levels between the mainland and Hong Kong. Hong Kong is a part of the PRC but still is considered semi-autonomous.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #97
                Q Cubed, you are right. If North Korea falls it has to stay independent. Unification will cut 10% of the average South Korean income and perhaps increase unemployment substantially. I can see why a South Korean does not want a war to happen. Honestly, neither do I. Too much at stake..
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #98
                  the downward direction of the korean economy after reunification is also true. however, i honestly can't imagine that the skoreans wouldn't be willing to endure some hardship in order to see some of their long lost relatives again--without having a military trooper observing them.
                  B♭3

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                  • #99
                    Where will I get my kim chee, bibem bop, and Korean BBQ if they go to war?
                    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                    • #100
                      If done right, with proper reform, the economic damage a reunification causes would be minimalized. In reality, North Korea could easily be lifted to South Korean standards quickly with free market reforms. In Germany's case there wasn't enough proper steps taken when reunification occurred.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #101
                        che, i'll take you to mom's house.

                        as for minimizing the damage, yes. i'm somewhat concerned, however... if i can find that article, it mentions that skorea is unfortunately not learning all the lessons it needs to from germany.
                        B♭3

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                        • #102
                          Well I hope it does soon. Just throwing money at North Korea if reunification were to happen wouldn't solve a thing. Structural reforms need to occur. All West Germany did was throw money at East Germany.. it ended up in a disaster.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #103
                            Originally posted by Q Cubed
                            che, i'll take you to mom's house.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #104
                              Originally posted by Q Cubed
                              hell, even I never thought that there could ever be a lasting peace in east asia. an uneasy peace, yes, but not a calm, lasting one as seen amongst the countries in western europe or north america.
                              There are only four countries in the region. The only problem I see right now is Japan, who still refuses to apologise for WWII.
                              (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                              (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                              (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                              • #105
                                Reconstructing North Korea would be horribly expensive, far more than it cost to get East germany up to speed (still ahsn;t happened) and Germany had far more money to beign with than SKorea does. A war and the fatermath would do a huge nuber for a few years on the economy of SKorea, and have substantial impact on Japan and China.
                                If you don't like reality, change it! me
                                "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                                "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                                "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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