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  • #61
    Originally posted by Q Cubed
    he's a nice prof. one m in his name.

    tad liberal, though--he'd probably make an extremely liberal estimate.
    The estimate is the Pentagon's. He's just the source for it.
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    • #62
      The estimate is the Pentagon's. He's just the source for it.


      He's obviously under the control of the neo-cons then. I'll never trust a mouthpiece for Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle and the rest of the evil chickenhawks.
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      • #63
        bruce cumings, under the control of neo-cons?

        you should have heard how vehemently he was against the iraq war...
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        • #64
          you should have heard how vehemently he was against the iraq war...


          It's all a trick. The neo-cons made him look like a liberal by telling him to oppose a war in Iraq. In the future, they're going to use his liberal credentials to sell a war with North Korea. It's so obvious.

          I bet Cumings has ties to Halliburton and Bechtel as well.
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          • #65


            read "korea's place in the sun", written before bush and co came to power. that liberal bit...

            you're quite amusing.

            what surprised me, sorta, was that realist thinker mearsheimer was against the war too... although he said it was mainly because he didn't think a regional hegemon like the us could effectively project its power over the ocean. damn convincing in person.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Q Cubed
              what surprised me, sorta, was that realist thinker mearsheimer was against the war too... although he said it was mainly because he didn't think a regional hegemon like the us could effectively project its power over the ocean.
              I thought that it was because he didn't believe that Iraq was a big enough threat to justify military action. According the what I've read, he never bought into the WMD excuse for the invasion.
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              • #67
                hm. i never read his article "the case for war has not been made", even though i've tried to track it down.

                i'm going off of one of his guest lectures in a class, and he very specifically mentioned that no regional hegemon can effectively surpass the barrier of the ocean.

                i don't quite buy this, because of the case with england, but that's all i remember from my notes. ^^;
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Q Cubed
                  hm. i never read his article "the case for war has not been made", even though i've tried to track it down.
                  This is probably what your refering to: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/wwwboard/walts.html
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                  • #69
                    i'm going off of one of his guest lectures in a class, and he very specifically mentioned that no regional hegemon can effectively surpass the barrier of the ocean.


                    America isn't just a regional hegemon; we're a global hegemon. I don't see how anyone can believe that the US can't project power across an ocean.
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                    • #70
                      ah, yes! i'd been looking for this. thanks.
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                      • #71
                        drake, that's why i said i didn't quite buy it. in the case of britain, it fails because britain was able to do so with its heavy technological edge. in the case of america, it's sheer economic power coupled with a strong technological edge.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                          America isn't just a regional hegemon
                          Yes, we are. We're the only one at the moment though.
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                          • #73
                            I bet this Mearsheimer fellow is under the control of the neo-cons as well. They're trying to confuse and disorient the next prospective victims of America's bloody warmongering.
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                            • #74
                              Yes, we are. We're the only one at the moment though.


                              I don't see how you can say this. America is the dominant military power in regions outside of North America. We're far more than a regional hegemon.
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                              • #75
                                The US should strike NK. Right now. Real hard.

                                'There you go - that's what we'll do about it'.

                                Now, what could NK do about that. Nothing. There crappy missile systems could not hit ANY part of the US, I would be willing to bet. Make an example out of them I say. Hit them so hard right at the start that they are not even capable of returning fire. And you could do that. they wouldnt even see it coming.

                                Yeah yeah yeah... some of you tell me how wrong I am. No one would have agreed if someone said before iraq that the US would only had 120 something killed and take the country in 20some days. Even I thought the US would take more like 500 dead doing Iraq.

                                NK would fold faster the Iraq.

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