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  • #46
    I say let them in, as long as government is paying for the BS stuf.

    Let the Iraqis see how dumb US fundies can be, it will be like preventative medicine for their own fundies.
    "Wait a minute..this isn''t FAUX dive, it's just a DIVE!"
    "...Mangy dog staggering about, looking vainly for a place to die."
    "sauna stories? There are no 'sauna stories'.. I mean.. sauna is sauna. You do by the laws of sauna." -P.

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    • #47
      Isn't it considered particularly egregious in Muslim communities to convert from Islam to Christianity, considering that Mohammed is considered the "Seal of the prophets" and that one who denies him isn't likely to have a nice time in their community?

      I think the reason that many Chaldean Christians have survived is because:
      A) Saddam's protection
      B) They're not particularly evangelic (From what I've read)
      C) They have western links that Muslims don't have.

      I personally think that missionaries, although well intended, will stir up trouble in the long run. If people want to do relief work, they can join secular organizations like the Red Cross or Red Crescent. If they want to convert people, go to Latin America or Africa where it's less likely that you'll have to be saved.
      If you look around and think everyone else is an *******, you're the *******.

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      • #48
        Iraq is a modern country thats had secular government for ages. I doubt it'll be much of a problem unless the evangelicals start drawing attention to themselves.

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        • #49
          In Marruecos (that country at the south of Spain, dont know how to spell it in english) even though it is one of the most moderate muslim countries, if you want to convert from islam to christianity you are sent by the government to a psychiatris and only after his judgement (you are sane, you are not insane) then you are allowed to change your religion.
          Periodista : A proposito del escudo de la fe, Elisa, a mí me sorprendía Reutemann diciendo que estaba dispuesto a enfrentarse con el mismísimo demonio (Menem) y después terminó bajándose de la candidatura. Ahí parece que fuera ganando el demonio.

          Elisa Carrio: No, porque si usted lee bien el Génesis dice que la mujer pisará la serpiente.

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          • #50
            morocco
            "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

            "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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            • #51
              Originally posted by obiwan18
              Meaning me ?
              No the question was first oriented to Ned, and was rather provocative given his love for Communists and Islamists I have said "usual conservative" because I had forgotten if I had first asked the question to Ned or Shi.
              "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
              "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
              "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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              • #52
                Obiwan, I made the quote up It was just an example.
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #53
                  Let the Iraqis see how dumb US fundies can be, it will be like preventative medicine for their own fundies.

                  A person from the RoK saying this. Now THAT'S HILLARIOUS.
                  how much of your population are Christian now, 40%?
                  urgh.NSFW

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                  • #54
                    I personally feel if anyone of any religion tried to convert me I would be insulted. How would anyone else like it if a Muslim cleric started knocking on doors trying to convert you?
                    obiwan, I think people would think better of christians if they toned down the proselytising (sp?) a lot (that is, have the focus be humanitarian, and if people ask about the religion you tell them about it, etc.). That way no one would go away with bad blood or be insulted.
                    "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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                    • #55
                      Why insulted? people try to "convert" each other into lots of things, some of them are even as stupid as religion ( ), why should that be stupid?

                      people try to convert me into:
                      -liking ska music.
                      -being a social democrat.
                      -being gay.
                      -being a capitalist.
                      -liking sushi.
                      -liking certain brands of clothes.

                      how does that differ?
                      urgh.NSFW

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                      • #56
                        Azazel :
                        There is a strong symbolical value to changing religion. Especially if you are a believer already, you can think the missionaries want to have your people burn in hell or something (because christianty leads to Allah's hell).

                        I'm sure anybody with strong beliefs would be mad if someone tried to convert them. I've already seen hardrockers eager to pound anybody who'll talk good about rap in their presence, or heterosexuals harassing gays who have hit on them.

                        Religion is even worse.
                        "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                        "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                        "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                        • #57
                          I just loooove fundamentalists, and stoneheaded people.
                          being angry at someone trying to introduce you to new ideas.

                          I couldn't care less, honest.

                          one girl tried to invite me to a movie on scientology, but I dunno. perhaps I'll go, some day.
                          urgh.NSFW

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Azazel
                            A person from the RoK saying this. Now THAT'S HILLARIOUS.
                            how much of your population are Christian now, 40%?
                            To be fair, Korea has had lots of Christians for a very long time.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #59
                              somewhat more than 200 years IIRC.
                              are there christians in DPRK?
                              urgh.NSFW

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                              • #60
                                i'd imagine so, but i'll bet they keep quiet about it...
                                "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                                "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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