Bowling for Columbine...

[Spiffor]

In the movie, the interview with Nicholls goes :
"MOORE : But you could do like Gandhi. He was non violent and defeated the British empire !
NICHOLLS : I don't know who this guy is"

I'm sure Nicholls didn't answer that, but this bit was cut from another answer (if you look carefully, there is a cut right at this moment)

However, though he skews facts, I think Moore has a point about the feeling of paranoia.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Spiffor
However, though he skews facts, ...

Skews? Throws them in the trash would be more accurate, IMO.

[Gibsie]

And his array of foreign country homicide rates excludes Switzerland, home of the most armed populace in Europe and a lower crime rate than Great Britain.

I'm sure from the many many times that the figures have been posted in the gun debates of old that Switzerland has a abnormally-high murder rate for Europe. Either I'm mistaken or this is just another biased collection of misreportings, out of context statistics and utter lies.

And when I say "just another" I mean in reference to BfC.

[MRT144]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I'm glad most Apolytoners realize he molds the facts to fit his viewpoint. I refer to him as the left's Rush Limbaugh.

but at least he doesnt have a throng of supporters he can mutually masturbate with on the national spectrum and whose sole purpose is to mutually masturbate over political views on the national spectrum.

wait, i stand corrected

I like moores ideas but not the methodology

[Gibsie]

It's his tramp-like demeanor I like the least. On his last publicity tour in Britain he kept using the same corny anti-Bush jokes (that weren't funny the first time), and his appearance grew more tramplike each show I saw him on. I could almost smell him...

[DanS]

Funny movie. It wasn't particularly enlightening, though. Incredibly biased, a lot unfocused, and in some ways perpetuated a few big lies.

Growing up in rural Ohio, we never locked our door, whether we were at home or not, and even when we were on vacation. The doors to the cars were always unlocked and the keys in the ignition.

But since I'm in the city, I lock the door at all times. Better not to offer the occasion to sin...

[Jon Miller]

yah

in every home but this one I have not locked my door

here iI do though

Jon Miller

[Guynemer]

A lot of people seem to think that the film was a pro-gun control propaganda piece... I wonder if people actually watched the film.

Moore went out of his way to show that Canada has the same gun control laws and an even higher gun ownership rate than the U.S., but has a much lower crime rate. He basically says that the guns are not the problem, but merely a symptom of it, whatever that problem may be...

[ixnay]

^^ Exactly

I watched it and enjoyed it and thought it was good and well-made.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Gibsie


I'm sure from the many many times that the figures have been posted in the gun debates of old that Switzerland has a abnormally-high murder rate for Europe. Either I'm mistaken or this is just another biased collection of misreportings, out of context statistics and utter lies.

And when I say "just another" I mean in reference to BfC.

Isn't the reason that Switzerland has the highest rate of personal gun ownership in Europe due to the fact that the Swiss army requires that reservists keep their weapons at home and that Switzerland still has universal conscription with reservists serving for a major chunk of their adult lives? I imagine that the Swiss army also has certain safety standards regarding the storage of these weapons, and the owners probably realise that their weapons are registered.

[Dr Strangelove]

Alas, this movie will never make its way to my hometown. None of Mr. Moore's movies ever have.

[JohnT]

Where do you live? And, do you not have Blockbusters?

[ThePantaloonDog]

My family as well as myself have never locked our doors while we in the house. I've lived in Baltimore, NYC, Norfolk, and Portland, ME and I honestly have never felt the need. If someone really wanted to get in my house with the door locked they would just break a window or something.

I do agree with what Moore has to say about the sensationalism of the media in the US but I find his methods distasteful. Bowling was so biased I almost walked out and I'm for gun control.

[JohnT]

I've always locked my doors, regardless of where I lived.

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by Guynemer
Moore went out of his way to show that Canada has the same gun control laws and an even higher gun ownership rate than the U.S., but has a much lower crime rate. He basically says that the guns are not the problem, but merely a symptom of it, whatever that problem may be...

Hmmm...not quite. Canada has a lower gun ownership rate (he mentions that a lot of guns are owned in Canada as a comparison, never that we have a higher rate, and conveniently ignores the fact that the handgun ownership rate in the US blows Canada out of the water). Also, we do have tighter gun control laws, and I don't remember him saying otherwise.

I agree with your last point, though.

As for the movie as a whole, I thought it was fantastically entertaining, but would agree that it is a typical Moore piece of taking the facts only as far as he needs to make his point, and conveniently ignoring others. It's kind of a shame, too, because I thought he made some great points that could have been driven home better if he didn't add in some blatantly false stuff.