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Especially if you dressed them up like Velma and Roxie in Chicago
That would not be funny....it would be a war crime!
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Why didn't the US forces in Baghdad stop looting and maintain order?
Because it isn't that important. Most of these looters appear to have been looking for a souvenir from a regime that they hated. No different than US soldiers taking a poster of Saddam as a memento of their time there.
Rummy is precisely right. Freedom also gives you the choice to do bad things. Most will settle into self-policing pretty soon and these problems will mostly go away. The Imams probably reminded everybody at Friday prayers that stealing is a bad thing to do.
It also appears that many are aimlessly wandering the capital looking for imprisoned or lost relatives and the like. Or they are curious about Hussein's palaces and just want to see how the bastard lived. Most are harmless and who would want to stop them from doing what they feel like doing anyway? Let them drink it in.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
They like that - that way, they can give the gesture the meaning they intend, and get a laugh at how the infidels don't have a clue.
Just doing my part to make thier lives a little brighter.
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Originally posted by MarkG
desks and pc's from embassies,
You never know. They may not be all warm and fuzzy for Germany either.
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like medicines from hospitals, desks and pc's from embassies, anything you can imagine from stores, etc
Once things turn to property unaffiliated with the government, that's when you need to step in. Remember that a lot of the stores were government stores. A lot of the homes being ransacked are those of the Baath party members. As far as I'm concerned, they can have at it.
PCs, desks, chairs, and vases can all be replaced. Don't worry about it.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
Originally posted by DanS Why didn't the US forces in Baghdad stop looting and maintain order?
Because it isn't that important. Most of these looters appear to have been looking for a souvenir from a regime that they hated. No different than US soldiers taking a poster of Saddam as a memento of their time there.
Rummy is precisely right. Freedom also gives you the choice to do bad things. Most will settle into self-policing pretty soon and these problems will mostly go away. The Imams probably reminded everybody at Friday prayers that stealing is a bad thing to do.
It also appears that many are aimlessly wandering the capital looking for imprisoned or lost relatives and the like. Or they are curious about Hussein's palaces and just want to see how the bastard lived. Most are harmless and who would want to stop them from doing what they feel like doing anyway? Let them drink it in.
Nope, most are getting whatever they can. Small businesses, hospitals, the national museum, the treasury, banks. Local groups have already organized to stop it, which is called vigilantism and which suggests that ordinary people are also the targets of it. Why do people keep coming on here saying the same things when its been demonstrated otherwise?
The troops have to do something, shooting isn't necessary though. They could detain large amounts of people to be released in a couple of days, hopefully in a calmer atmosphere.
I agree that a line needs to be drawn on private property and eventually looting of public property needs to be discouraged.
The US should work with the vigilante groups to stop looting of private property. In the US, those are called neighborhood watches.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
Looting of public property always needs to be discouraged. Who gives a **** if the Baath party used it before, its the Iraqi peoples and it will be needed shortly, I'm not at all happy to see it go into the hands of rioters and looters.
human lives lost during all this (including those in hospitals whose medicine and required equipment has been stolen) can not be replaced
The army and marines are stepping in to hospitals as resources and opportunity allows. The army and marines haven't even cleared some of the city, remember!
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
I have just finished reading the posts on page two of this thread. The posts from Michael the Great and Sava, among others, notes the anarchy in Iraq today and calls for law and order. What I find puzzling about this is that I thought that the left was largely against the police, law and order and were favor anarchy. Was I wrong?
Live reports from embedded reporters largely state that the people are sacking government offices, baath party buildings and the residence residences of Baath party members. The fact that they are looting the museums and hospitals is disturbing; but it does raise questions as to how much these institutions were involved in the government control apparatus.
But I understand that across Iraq that tribal leaders and former police officers are being called back to work to join with US troops in restoring law and order.
what do you call them when they start beatings and lynchings?
Effective community policing in a pinch.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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