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  • #16
    Can someone explain how come most congresspeople / senators will vote for this crap ? I would have thought almost all Americans were actually loving their freedom, and their representatives love it as well. Why is this text so much unopposed ?
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    • #17
      What's wrong che, aren't you a patriot.

      Anyway, I agree with Spiffor. People are scared so they give up their freedoms willingly. In that sense the terrorists have won.

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      • #18
        I love how the Republican party wants to spread freedom to other countries, but restricts it domestically. And shame on the spineless Democrats that don't stand up against this crap. They're just as bad as the Reps.
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Spiffor
          Can someone explain how come most congresspeople / senators will vote for this crap ?
          IIRC, not many of them read it and Ashcroft pushed for a quick vote on it.

          Now as for weather the law is crap or not, I don't see it as being substantively worse than the Prevention of terrorism act and the like passed by Parliament in the UK. I'll let you make your own judgement on if that is a good thing or a bad thing.
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          • #20
            Gee, I sure am suprised.

            I seem to recall people telling me not to worry about the Patriot Act in this very forum because Congress decided to include a sunset clause.

            Can someone explain how come most congresspeople / senators will vote for this crap ?
            Half of Congress is made up of fascists, and the other half is made up of pansies.
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            • #21
              Actually, this is great news.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Spiffor
                Can someone explain how come most congresspeople / senators will vote for this crap ? I would have thought almost all Americans were actually loving their freedom, and their representatives love it as well. Why is this text so much unopposed ?

                hi ,

                well cause maybe some security apparatus has some files on them , ......

                have a nice day
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                • #23
                  To give up freedom in the name of freedom. Sometimes my fellow Americans really disturb me.

                  MTG, I know you have stated that due process must be involved in the execution of most of the Patriot act provisions. This does not make me feel safer. If due process could be executed to remove the rights of free speech for thousands at a time would you feel safe?(just a what if.)

                  This is a BAD law. Che is correct. Write your representative today!

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                  • #24
                    hey, che...

                    if you're a patriot, you have nothing to hide...



                    jeebus, i hope this bill dies. as i hope the DCMA dies as well.
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                    • #25


                      As I look at the US....it's becoming less and less American and more and more like certain other countries I've lived in
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Ramo
                        Half of Congress is made up of fascists, and the other half is made up of pansies.
                        Now that's what I wanted to read
                        I'm sure it is much more true than the average partisan would like to admit
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Stefu
                          I think Operation Iraqi Liberation would have been better. I bet it would have got acronymized pretty fast, though.

                          In same vein, "Operation Arabic Freedom" would have been fine...
                          Operation Cheap Oil?

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                          • #28
                            Re: Danger! Danger! USAPATRIOT Act to be extended

                            Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                            The provisions of the USAPATRIOT Act have sunset provisions and are set to go away in 2005. Congress is now talking about removing the sunset provisions and make it permanent.

                            Contact your Congressman and Senator today!



                            Writing a snail male letter to my congressman now(not gonna bother with my senator......Hillary Clinton-grrrrrrrr)-I said it was a bad idea when it was made law, I said it would be extended-I was told I was nuts........GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!! >!!!!!!!!

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                            • #29
                              yah that patriot act is pretty scary stuff. definitely needs to get its ass repealed

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Spiffor
                                Can someone explain how come most congresspeople / senators will vote for this crap ?


                                The Patriot Act isn't any worse than the anti-terrorism laws that France has had for years. You would never know that from cruising Poly, however...

                                That being said, I still don't want it to be permanent. I'm not comfortable copying the French.
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