Here's a simple military question

[Pekka]

Asher, get your butt into army and find out .

[KrazyHorse]

Come on! Where are all the supposed pros when you need them?

Pekka's the closest thing we have to an expert on the US military, and his only experience is with the Nazi cheerleaders in the Finlandish Army...

[Asher]

Originally posted by Pekka
Asher, get your butt into army and find out .

In Canada, we use M2s and M3s.

M2s are 18.5kg, M3s 12.5kg: http://www.caf.itgo.8m.com/army_30.html

[DinoDoc]

Re: Here's a simple military question

Originally posted by Frogger
Are other NATO countries moving toward the same change?

Canadian soldiers have weapons?

[KrazyHorse]

No, but we're not really a country either.

[Zero]

Originally posted by Frogger


Why not just carry the launchers in the humvee then? Better there than taking up space on your rifleman's back.

Once again, the doctrine behind this weapon is = never being caught w/o anti-tank capability. So you're supposed to have it with you wherever you go.

[KrazyHorse]

I was responding to Asher's suggestion that perhaps the rockets were all carried on the Humvee.

A weapon without ammunition is no good, unless you plan to club the tank to death.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Frogger
No, but we're not really a country either.

The only part of Canada's military I find cool is the JTF2.

Unfortunately it's the part we know least about.

[KrazyHorse]

I find the guys in blue helmets the coolest.

[KrazyHorse]

I also think that it's shameful that peacekeepers who have died in action on duty are not honoured as war heroes by the government.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Frogger
I find the guys in blue helmets the coolest.

They do good work, but I don't find them the coolest.

One of my high school buddies did a peacekeeping tour.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Frogger
I also think that it's shameful that peacekeepers who have died in action on duty are not honoured as war heroes by the government.

If you're not in a war, how can you be honored as a war heroes?

[KrazyHorse]

Because when an organised group of people are shooting at you for belonging to a certain country's armed forces then you're at war with them. It might not be declared, it might not be a war between 2 sovereign countries, but it is a war, even if it lasts only an hour.

More peacekeepers have died from Canada than any other country, and more Canadian peacekeepers have died than have Canadian combat soldiers since Korea (by a factor of 10).

If they're in the military and die in combat then they are just as deserving of that title as any man who fell in WWII (or Afghanistan).

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Frogger
Because when an organised group of people are shooting at you for belonging to a certain country's armed forces then you're at war with them.

If we are going to accept that assumption, I would posit that we are going to have to change how they are armed and the ROE they opperate under.

[KrazyHorse]

No, because most of the time their battles are fought without them knowing ahead of time that they'll be at war.

They're deliberately crippled as to how much firepower they bring with them. That's one of the reasons I have so much respect for them.