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    Does every US soldier now carry a bazooka/RPG launcher or whatever?

    They all seem to have a tube strapped to their back (the pictures I've seen so far, although I admit that I'm not a coverage junkie).

    Is this a standard piece of equipment for every man now, or is there only 1 per squad or something?

    If it is standard, will this radically change the way the US fights infantry battles (not that they've fought many "real" infantry on infantry battles in a while)?

    Are other NATO countries moving toward the same change?
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  • #3
    That looks sort of like what I've seen (it's broken in two pieces and carried strapped to the back).

    Does every frontline soldier in the USMC get one?
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    • #4
      I don´t think so. Doesn´t make sense.
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      • #5
        A "ready to fire" weight of 30 pounds is significant. That means that to even carry a single rocket the soldier is using up 1/3 of his packing capacity (correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to be overambitious to expect soldiers to hump anything more than 100 pounds of gear into battle, due to decreased mobility)...
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        • #6
          Originally posted by BeBro
          I don´t think so. Doesn´t make sense.
          Okay...but it seems like I've seen a lot of them for only 1 in 5 to get one. Almost every picture I've seen has one in it...
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          • #7
            its standard issue. I dunno if every single one of them has it but probably not. (guessing around 1:2 or 1:3)
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            • #8
              Originally posted by Frogger
              A "ready to fire" weight of 30 pounds is significant. That means that to even carry a single rocket the soldier is using up 1/3 of his packing capacity (correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to be overambitious to expect soldiers to hump anything more than 100 pounds of gear into battle, due to decreased mobility)...
              i forgot what the paratroopers in WW2 carried but it exceeds 100lb
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              • #9
                Well, perhaps MTG can answer this definately, but I think they split into different teams whith different kind of weapons (MGs, AT stuff etc.. In that way relatively small teams have a decent firepower against a variety of targets.
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                • #10
                  Idea of SMAW is infantry to be never caught w/o an anti-tank capablity, no matter the size of team, so I dont see why everyone shouldnt have one.

                  But equipping everyone with it does sound a bit too ambitious, I guess.
                  :-p

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by Calc II


                    i forgot what the paratroopers in WW2 carried but it exceeds 100lb
                    And Canadian soldiers in some battles in WWI took 120 lbs into battle too.

                    Then they got their asses shot off.

                    After that they dropped their own pack loads to 70lbs...

                    I just don't see it being effective to cart around anything over 100 lbs on the battlefield.

                    I've run carrying a 230 lb teammate on my back during rugby training (I weighed 145 at the time).

                    It's possible...but I wouldn't have wanted to have people shooting at me while I did it.
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                    • #12
                      I noticed that too, though that link Calc II provided refuses not to open right now. They looked a lot like light bazookas (I don't you US equivalent for it, something simular I think) that are disposable, and can be only used once. They weigh next to nothing and are easy to carry with you, so I'd reckon it is possible. Fast and easy to use and you can dump them after firing.. they are not very effective, but then again they can be used for various different things and they are light and cheap and good with skilled soldier. Don't know if this is the weapon in case.

                      What set of equipment does basic soldier carry in combat? They seemed to carry lots of stuff, I can't see much of a use for them in combat, but then again the pictures might have been from moving from point A to point B. So I'm looking for the very basic stuff in combat. Possible scenario would be camps around Bahgdad, what will they take with them when they are planning on coming back the same day? I'm interested in weaponry, so I'm not so interested about '2 cans of water, personal armour, helmet, boots'..

                      Assault rifle (M-16), knife, secondary weapon (beretta maybe?, or is it only for officers?), few hand granades.. and what? those light bazookas? claymores? basic explosives of what kind? How many magazines? Smoke granades (not exactly weapon but..). Does every man have some kind of light basic communication kit, or is it one man with radios on stuff per group?

                      Also, how much do they usually carry ammo with them, if they're not going on a spesific combat mission, but rather patrolling or moving to other places by foot, reckon missions etc where enemy contact is possible but not likely? What about when it's likely? 6 to 8 magazines?
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                      • #13
                        can only be used once, can be broken into two, looks like bazzoka = SMAW
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                        • #14
                          Hmm.
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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by Pekka
                            They weigh next to nothing and are easy to carry with you
                            That's my problem with this. The "ready to fire" weight is 30 lbs. What else do you lose? Especially in the desert you need water, even if you're only away from your supply for an hour or two. Ammo is frigging heavy. Add body armor, com gear etc.
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