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do the people of iraq really love saddam? do palestinians really love the islamic jihad?
no, and maybe
no, and maybe
On what do you base these answers?
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On what do you base these answers?"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal. -
i admit i have no idea on the islamic jihad but i think its a fair assesment to say there arent many people in iraq that liked saddam. from everything ive seen from all news sources the people of iraq seem to be happy with the toppling of saddam"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburgerComment
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i admit i have no idea on the islamic jihad but i think its a fair assesment to say there arent many people in iraq that liked saddam. from everything ive seen from all news sources the people of iraq seem to be happy with the toppling of saddam
Tha depends on what you see.
I for example saw some French and Jordanian TV and got the oposite impression."Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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Edan - it's stupid there because he would be advocating a stupid policy, not because he would be advocating a different policy.Comment
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And what policy am I advocating?Originally posted by skywalker
Edan - it's stupid there because he would be advocating a stupid policy, not because he would be advocating a different policy."Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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Yesterday in addition to the assasination of that IJ guy two more Tanzim terrorists were killed by undercover soldiers and 18 wanted men were arrested.
Did you hear about anything of that? No.
That's how people get the completely wrong impression that the only thing that Israel does is assasinations that kill tens of civilians as collateral damage."Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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Eli, criticizing the US because they are hypocritical in this instance is stupid because 9 times out of 10 our admin remains silent. The only times this isn't the case is when your assassinations screw up and kill alot of people or when they are badly timed, like in cooling off periods or say when there are delicate negotiations going on between moderate and militant palestinians to halt civilian attacks. At these times you create a huge mess for the US which we then have to clean up by giving you a little slap on the wrist. Big deal.
As for your image of the success in Israel's anti-terrorist strategies the picture that I see is continued terrorism no matter how effective, more and more money being requested from the US and no change in the existance of palestinians which is far more miserable then a guy in Tel Aviv who'd rather order pizza in then risk getting blown up(about the same chance he has of getting hit by a car).
I'm not discounting the effect of suicide bombings, just pointing out the hypocracy of demanding security at the cost of robbing others of any they might have had.Comment
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no hypocricy here. warfare. We all know very well that the palestinians have it much worse than we do, and we don't lie about it.Comment
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"Waaaaaaah the US isn't fair to us, waaaaah!"
Deal with it. Or choose a different ally.
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The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.Comment
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Yes there is. Right-wing Israelis demand everybody recognize their right to absolute security without recognizing the palestinian right to any security whatsoever. I'm making no judgements here just illustrating hypocracy as its defined.Comment
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Eli, the reason I started posting here in the off-topic forum last year was that I was angered by the pro-Palestinian drift of president Bush. I now understand that he was trying to calm down the Israel-Palestinian issue because he had bigger fish to fry.
If you look at the bigger picture, you will see we are being hypocritical for a purpose. The US, and particularly, George Bush, are solidly behind ending terrorism where ever its ugly head appears.Last edited by Ned; April 11, 2003, 16:54.http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=enComment
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Are we still treating Eli's whining seriously or are we past that now?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Why are you so jumpy suddenly? Paiktis got bored of you?Originally posted by DinoDoc
Are we still treating Eli's whining seriously or are we past that now?"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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Not jumpy. Bored but slightly amused.Originally posted by Eli
Why are you so jumpy suddenly?
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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