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  • #16
    Originally posted by chegitz guevara
    I was thinking about nominating Cryptonomicon, which is arguably Neal Stephenson's best work to date (he's one of my favorite authors), however, I had my memory jogged about my favorite cyberpunk book, Stephenson's Snow Crash.
    Snow Crash is so good and worthy of discussion that I won't even nominate another book myself. I second this nomination, if you chose to go this route, Che.

    I think Cryptonomicon is excellent as well, but is part of a unfinished series, and personally I would life to avoid another series book as the winner, as there have been three out of four so far.

    Edit: 3 out of 4, not 3 out of 5
    Last edited by Static Universe; April 5, 2003, 18:42.
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    • #17
      The Handmaid's Tale
      Foundation
      Ender's Game (current)
      Red Mars (in May)

      Note the convenient link that I supplied to help people locate the Ender's Game "discussion."

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      • #18
        X-post with Statics edit made this post irrelevant.

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        • #19
          Yes, but Red Mars is so long, and I just started reading it (totally indepedant to the pick). I just finished Dune, have moved onto Red Mars... so I'll get to Ender's Game.... um... *runs*
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
            Dune by Frank Herbert.


            I was going to nominate Dune as well, until I saw the stupid "cyberpunk" theme. Best sci-fi novel ever, but not cyberpunk in the least...
            When I win this month's nomination I'll make the next theme, Science Fantasy, so you can have your Dune.
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            • #21
              When I win this month's nomination I'll make the next theme, Science Fantasy, so you can have your Dune.


              Make the theme "books involving giant desert planets, sandworms, and prescient, god-like characters." I don't want to take any chances.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                When I win this month's nomination I'll make the next theme, Science Fantasy, so you can have your Dune.


                Make the theme "books involving giant desert planets, sandworms, and prescient, god-like characters." I don't want to take any chances.
                Maybe you should just go with "Books with 'Dune' in the Title".
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                • #23
                  Watch, 'Dune Messiah' will win out then or something .
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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                  • #24
                    Watch, 'Dune Messiah' will win out then or something .


                    Or "Heretics of Dune"...

                    *shudders*
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                    • #25
                      --" Most of the action in Diaspora happens inside computers, so I think that it qualifies as cyberpunk."

                      Not really. I did post a pretty standard definition of it above. There's an important element of attitude that's entirely seperate from computers being there or not.
                      Haven't read the book, but I wouldn't expect it to be cyberpunk from the description.

                      --"I'll nominate A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge (does that qualify as cyberpunk?)."

                      I've read it, and I wouldn't call it cyberpunk, but I guess this is going to be Chegitz's call.

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                      • #26
                        I'm going to withdraw the Hyperion nomination. Most of the "cyber" stuff was actually in the sequel, Fall of Hyperion.

                        I would've nominated Vinge's True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier, but that would've violated the "you must have read it" rule, and would've stolen votes from the earlier Vinge nomination.

                        So, unless I can think of something, I'll likely go without a nominee this time.

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                        • #27
                          Make the theme "books involving giant desert planets, sandworms, and prescient, god-like characters." I don't want to take any chances.

                          Will I be able to nominate The Dark Side of the Sun?

                          Watch, 'Dune Messiah' will win out then or something .

                          I like Dune Messiah.

                          Not really. I did post a pretty standard definition of it above. There's an important element of attitude that's entirely seperate from computers being there or not.
                          Haven't read the book, but I wouldn't expect it to be cyberpunk from the description.


                          Fine. I nominate 1984 then.
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                          • #28
                            I'm all for Che's nomination.

                            We're going to start discussing Diamond Age by Stephenson in my Sci-Fi Lit. class. It doesn't fit cyberpunk otherwise I'd nominate it. This'll also give me an excuse to read Cryptonomicon.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by MacTBone
                              This'll also give me an excuse to read Cryptonomicon.
                              Excellent book. My only problem with it is the hard cover edition I have has so many typos that after a while I began to think they weren't typos but rather some kind of hidden message written into the book.

                              I mean every three or four pages there was a glaring mispelling or something. Methinks this book wasn't edited properly.

                              Edit: What word above is not spelled properly?
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                              • #30
                                --"Fine. I nominate 1984 then."

                                Who does have final call on the genre-suitability, anyway? Seems like that's a little bit important with the new nomination scheme.

                                Wraith
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