US detains former Intel employee indefinitely, no charges pressed

[Ramo]

According to recent rulings on the material witness statute, as used by Ashcroft and buds, indefinite detention without trial, access to attorneys, or contact with family members is now "legal" if it can be claimed to be connected with an ongoing investigation.

I was under the impression that this only applies to non-citizens?

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Ramo


I was under the impression that this only applies to non-citizens?

The citizenship distinction has only been made in challenge of unlawful combatant status cases, AFAIK.

The intent of the material witness statute is to compel witnesses to testify, and make sure they don't flee the jurisdiction in which they're supposed to testify.

What is particularly chilling, is that since the MW statute doesn't address the type of crime, only being a witness to one, this expansion of "investigative" powers can be applied to investigation of any Federal crime, not just those related to PATRIOT or terrorism-related offenses.

[Jac de Molay]

So Ironic since the Feds were all over the Detroit cops for doing the same thing when they were detaining murder "witnesses" indefinitely for questioning. Of course, under the "arab exception", there's now a good dozen or so who are being held by the Feds in the same manner.

Somebody wake me from this living nightmare.....

[Urban Ranger]

Mr. Hawash, who is known as Mike, has yet to be interrogated and is being kept in solitary confinement, his supporters say.

Shades of the Lee Wen Ho case.

[Sarxis]

Ahh well.

[Lord Merciless]

Could that recently captured dude in Pakistan have something to do with this case?

[MRT144]

i like how UR does it the correct way

[LoneWolf]

And we didn't beat him too? Like would happen in Bagdad, for example. Too bad.

[NeOmega]

It's legal because that is what the majority of Americans want.

It's legal becasue 98% of the Americans have never heard of him, or anyone else being held as a material witness.

It's legal because our Democracy has failed, and became rule of the stupid majority.

Quite frankly it's legal becasue nobody cares, nobody ever will, and Arabs are terrorists anyway.

Ya dig?

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by LoneWolf
And we didn't beat him too? Like would happen in Bagdad, for example. Too bad.

Pathetic.

I'm interested into what prompted you to take that handle, if you'd be so kind.

[Boris Godunov]

FYI, Global Relief Foundation has not yet been proven to have links to terrorism, at least not on an intentional basis. There's no evidence this guy would have known even if they did, since tens of thousands of Muslims donate to Muslim charities all the time.

This is deplorable and needs to stop. The Bush regime is indeed going too far and is now the one responsible for creating a climate of fear in the U.S.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
The Bush regime is indeed going too far and is now the one responsible for creating a climate of fear in the U.S.

He has been for quite some time now, you're just beginning to notice I guess. Many of us outside the US have seen this going on for awhile, which is one reason we don't trust him.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Willem


He has been for quite some time now, you're just beginning to notice I guess. Many of us outside the US have seen this going on for awhile, which is one reason we don't trust him.

I don't think you've been reading my feelings about the Bush regime that I've stated since its falsified conception.

[Sava]

Booooo.
Why is this **** legal?

Ask our Texas fuhrer.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Guynemer


Pathetic.

I'm interested into what prompted you to take that handle, if you'd be so kind.

Isn't it obvious? He's a ruff n tuff lone wolf! Grrrrrrrowl!