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    From the NYtimes:

    Congressman Protests Use of French Marble
    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS



    Filed at 8:51 p.m. ET

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- A Colorado congressman is asking the Bush administration to stop making headstones for military veterans from marble bought from a French-owned company.

    If the Veterans Administration agrees to Rep. Scott McInnis' request, the additional marble would come from two other quarries -- one a Swiss-owned operation in the Colorado Republican's district.

    ``The French have done everything in their power to undermine the very troops whose sacrifice from which they now stand to profit,'' McInnis said in a letter to Veterans Affairs Secretary Anthony J. Principi.

    ``To force the relatives of our servicemen and women fighting the war in Iraq to mourn their loss under a headstone supplied by a company with French allegiance is an insult that no American soldier or their family should be forced to endure,'' McInnis wrote.

    Georgia Marble Company has been quarrying marble in Georgia since 1884. In 1995 it was bought by Imerys, a Paris-based corporation.

    ``They've produced a product and quality that we think veterans deserve and at the price that taxpayers deserve,'' said VA spokesman Phil Budahn.

    Georgia Marble is one of three suppliers of marble for headstones to the VA. The other two are Vermont Quarries Corp., which is owned by two Italian companies, and Sierra Minerals Corp., which leases the Yule Quarry in Colorado from Pleuss-Staufer International Inc., a Swiss company.

    ``If we eliminate one of the three that will just make us more reliant on the other two,'' Budahn said.

    The statue of Abraham Lincoln at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington is carved from the Georgia-quarried marble. The building surrounding the statue is made from Colorado marble, as is the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery.

    Rex Loesby, president of Sierra Minerals, said the French ownership issue was just a small part of a larger letter he had sent McInnis, expressing concerns about the VA management of his contract.

    Loesby said his is the only quarry that can produce white marble, but the VA has been buying a large volume of gray marble for headstones at a lower price from Georgia Marble.

    ``I like to say I could survive ... and I can compete heads-up with anybody, but the truth is I can't,'' Loesby said.

    The headstone contracts are up for bid again this summer.

    Since 1973, the VA has provided more than 8 million headstones and markers, Budahn said, including bronze markers as well as marble headstones.
    The question is, should we have IQ test for our congresspeople, cause a lot of Rep. congressmembers seem to be failing that standard miserably.

    Lets see if the Congresspeople from Georgia have something to say.
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  • #2
    Impressive.

    In my entire lifetime, I have never witnessed such a bigoted and confused hate for another country that the one the Americans are spouting over the French.
    I thought my country was anti-American. But when I see that extrent of anti-(put any people here)-ism, I think my country is pretty much US-apologist.

    You Americans should really worry. Your paranoia is destroying the intelligence of your country at an incredibly high rate.
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    • #3
      That's not my Congressman.
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      • #4
        Well, what really gets me (I do expect some pinheadedness from congressmembers) is that:

        1. The businessman from Colorado explicitly says that "hey, they might just outcompete me" and

        2. This is a company in Georgia, using marble from Georgia, employing people from Georgia, but we are not supposed to use them cause a French company bought them? Whats this pinhead and their xenophobic imbecilic monkey allies in the right-wing of this country going to do? Ban foreign investement from states that don't do what His Excellency, his Lord and Savior, Son of God, Bush I's commands?
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        • #5
          Our evil scheme is at work.
          We will buy all your companies, so that you boycott EVERYTHING produced in America

          Just you wait, Yanks
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          • #6
            Start with that chain that owns all those radio stations, Clear Channels or something like that. Start there.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Spiffor
              Impressive.

              In my entire lifetime, I have never witnessed such a bigoted and confused hate for another country that the one the Americans are spouting over the French.
              I thought my country was anti-American. But when I see that extrent of anti-(put any people here)-ism, I think my country is pretty much US-apologist.

              You Americans should really worry. Your paranoia is destroying the intelligence of your country at an incredibly high rate.
              Spiffor, you clearly know nothing about anti-france-ism in America. The fact that a congressman wants to protest French things may be stupic, but it is certainly not bigoted or hateful. The act was meant as a (albeit stupid) protest against French policy. The man does not hate french people.

              If "the extent" of bigotry is described by this, you should be glad we live in a nation that uses boycotts and not libelous, conspiracy laden hatred and the desecration of the gravestones of heroes.

              Oh wait, your nation does use those...
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              • #8
                Nah, we need the morons who call for a boycott. They serve us.
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                • #9
                  It's kind of nice IMO that our country is finally gaining a good deal of consciousness here. The Europeans have been bashing us for a very long time, too many considering us fat stupid fundamentalist cowboys, with an inferior culture who they guard their superior culture against. Let it be known that two can play at this game.
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                  • #10
                    Cyclotron :
                    My country has extremists just like yours. My country has stupid people who spout hate just like yours (even though I never encountered a Frenchman demanding to nuke the US).
                    The big difference between my country and yours, is that the media and the politicians don't play this game of hatemongering. In my country, the opinionmakers and policymakers try to cool down the heat. In yours, your opinionmakers and policymakers are fanning the flames.

                    In comparison to US' antifrancism, I must say France is pretty much US-apologist. As harsh as it sounds, your country's intelligence is going down, quickly.
                    Very quickly.
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                    • #11
                      GePap... I think there might be something else going on here. I suspect that if the US doesn't use the Georgia company's marble, they might turn to marble from a company in... Colorado. Congressmen do that stuff all the time (ie, they are smarter than we give them credit for).
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
                        It's kind of nice IMO that our country is finally gaining a good deal of consciousness here. The Europeans have been bashing us for a very long time, too many considering us fat stupid fundamentalist cowboys, with an inferior culture who they guard their superior culture against. Let it be known that two can play at this game.
                        So you'll defend your superior culture against ours by putting Georgian stonecutters out of work ?
                        There are ways to disagree with France's policy. Hatemongering isn't what I expect from a civilized country.

                        Edit : gah, I keep confusing Georgia and Viginia.
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                        "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
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                        • #13
                          Look the businessman who wrote the letter states:

                          Rex Loesby, president of Sierra Minerals, said the French ownership issue was just a small part of a larger letter he had sent McInnis, expressing concerns about the VA management of his contract.


                          And then this pinhead makes it all about the French. And no, i give very little credit to most congresspeople. I see very few of them who seem to be owrth a damn.

                          It's kind of nice IMO that our country is finally gaining a good deal of consciousness here. The Europeans have been bashing us for a very long time, too many considering us fat stupid fundamentalist cowboys, with an inferior culture who they guard their superior culture against. Let it be known that two can play at this game.


                          Play what game? Boycott companies that function in America, employ Americans, and use American materials because they were bought by a foreign corporation? Last time I heard, European legislators are not playing that game, and with good reason, cause it is an incredibly STUPID thing to do.

                          God......
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Spiffor
                            Cyclotron :
                            The big difference between my country and yours, is that the media and the politicians don't play this game of hatemongering.
                            So Le Monde didn't post a front page cartoon showing the US blazing a trial to Baghdad in the shape of a dollar bill?
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                            • #15
                              Spiffor: How is this hatemongering? It looks like (retarded) boycotting to me.

                              The people of the US are angry at France's continued intransigence. I don't recall Bush making any inflammatory remarks, and congressmen are often just simple country folk themselves (since they, unlike parliament members, represent small actual districts of constituents). They aren't fanning the flames, but expressing popular feelings.

                              Making cracks about the intelligence of national groups seems to me far more bigoted than anything our congressmen have said about France.
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