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  • #61
    Originally posted by Jon Miller
    I am surprised that europe is so meat heavy
    Jon Miller
    Surprised too. A good chunk of the Germans I know are veggies, and I thought vegetarianism was pretty hip in the German youth. Now, all these veggies are girls, and you know there is no such thing as a German girl on 'Poly
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    • #62
      This is weird, I'm the first european vegetarian here...

      some people can't live without meat, well I can't live with meat...it's disgusting
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      • #63
        I am mostly vegetarian, eating only fish (and not even shellfish).

        I find myself eating a lot ealthier as a natural consequence of such a diet, as I am automatically not indulging in fast food joints, since they don't have much to appeal to me (except of course those cardboard-tasting attempts at veggie burgers).

        I can honestly say I feel so much better not eating meats. I dunno how to describe it, except that I just feel "lighter." I don't feel too bogged down after eating meals, even large ones.

        As an interesting side note, after being vegetarian for a while, I began to notice that meat-eaters...smell. There is a subtle little stench that accompanies you all. Puh.
        Tutto nel mondo è burla

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        • #64
          I'm surprised there are many vegetarians in Germany at all, given that the traditional diet is perhaps one of the most meat-heavy in the world. Every German I've met has been an ardent carnivore...
          Tutto nel mondo è burla

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          • #65
            YEah, well there are millions of vegetarians in Germany, I've read some articles about it in German class so it's true!
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            • #66
              I wonder where Osweld got the stereotype of Europeans being vegetarians. I mean, there's your usual percentage yeah, but the cruisines here have been using meat for a long, long time.

              As an interesting side note, after being vegetarian for a while, I began to notice that meat-eaters...smell. There is a subtle little stench that accompanies you all. Puh
              That's the smell of someone who you secretely know would have one less objection if they ever had to butcher and eat you.

              I, for one, embrace my evolutionary heritage and eat anything which is foolish enough to carve easily into chops and steaks.
              Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
              -Richard Dawkins

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Azazel
                Darth: how's the diet going? what week is it? and do you feel better?

                I am asking because maybe I should try it myself.
                Well you can look @ my sig for a guage on my progress... not sure about the conversion but it's the best my calculator could do.

                I started back in July 2002. I've lost about 100 pounds now and I feel great.

                If your interested in trying the diet, be sure to pick up the book:

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                • #68
                  They've actually had a serious of studies from real acedics which have shown the no carb (read all meat) diet actually works and doesn't harm your health if you follow it for up to one year.

                  Longer then a year hasn't been studied yet.
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • #69
                    They've actually had a serious of studies from real acedics which have shown the no carb (read all meat) diet actually works and doesn't harm your health if you follow it for up to one year.
                    This sounds... pretty interesting. Ordinary meat? Could you tell me, where are you referring to?

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                    • #70
                      Well you'll have to give me proof on that Oerdin cos that sounds pretty unbelievable... I'm sceptical on it! From what I've learned in Biology class that's impossible.

                      Many people regard vegetarians as people who eat salads all day, or don't enjoy eating, but that's not true... There are many delicious meals and recepies without meat, and it doesn't even have to be something complicated etc...

                      Italian food is very good imo (and I don't mean I only eat spaghetti etc)

                      A bonus is, when you go to a restaurant, the vegetarian options are always the cheapest
                      Of course, I don't know whether vegetarian plates are an option in other countries or not so...
                      "An archaeologist is the best husband a women can have; the older she gets, the more interested he is in her." - Agatha Christie
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                      • #71
                        In Finland, that's not the case in restaurant's. 'Vegetarian' dishes tend to be over-priced jokes for people who're trying to be 'hip'. However, if you'll do your food for yourself (like I do), you'll notice the huge difference in price.

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                        • #72
                          I see.. Well here it's cheaper simply because meat is the most expensive part of a meal, so in restaurant it's just the same...
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                          "Non mortem timemus, sed cogitationem mortis." - Seneca

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                          • #73
                            I see.. Well here it's cheaper simply because meat is the most expensive part of a meal, so in restaurant it's just the same...
                            Yeah, in Belgium, taxes won't make running service-based business almost impossible, so that might explain it.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Trajanus
                              Well you'll have to give me proof on that Oerdin cos that sounds pretty unbelievable... I'm sceptical on it! From what I've learned in Biology class that's impossible.

                              Many people regard vegetarians as people who eat salads all day, or don't enjoy eating, but that's not true... There are many delicious meals and recepies without meat, and it doesn't even have to be something complicated etc...

                              Italian food is very good imo (and I don't mean I only eat spaghetti etc)

                              A bonus is, when you go to a restaurant, the vegetarian options are always the cheapest
                              Of course, I don't know whether vegetarian plates are an option in other countries or not so...
                              I was sceptical too and I would never go on a all anything diet because I like verity to much. Still CNN & MSNBC ran segments on the Atkin's diet being showed to be safe; this diet fad is currently the #1 selling book in the U.S. (sad I know). Any way the doctor I saw on CNN said she was extremely surprised because she thought that not following the food pyraimid would harm people's health. The study showed no increases in Cholesterol at the end of 6 months and a greater loss in body fat compared to the traditional counting calories method of dieting.

                              Of course most of the people who loss weight on this diet gain it back once they start eatting other things besides meat again but I guess that's life.
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Trajanus

                                A bonus is, when you go to a restaurant, the vegetarian options are always the cheapest
                                Of course, I don't know whether vegetarian plates are an option in other countries or not so...
                                It can sometimes be near impossible to get vegetarian food in restaurants here. Alot of restaurants will even ruin an otherwise perfectly good vegetarian dish with something like chicken stalk. And some don't even tell you.


                                But thankfully, there is an Idian restaurant just a short ways from me that does great vegetarian curries.
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