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  • #46
    Originally posted by Daz
    Hey Tass, Asher. Please.... the on-topic posts are being lost in your spam....

    Cut it out...
    Yes, I apologize I'm Russian.....That means I can troll quite well, but I always fall victim to the victims of my troll

    Meaning I've disappeared from the thread, of course
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Daz
      Hey Tass, Asher. Please.... the on-topic posts are being lost in your spam....

      Cut it out...

      As you wish, sire.

      Tass: And for the record, my PM box was only blocked for 15 minutes. I didn't need it blocked after you thought it was blocked for good.
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      • #48
        NYE:

        "I refer you to Michael Moore's recent outburst. He is fairly close to the mind set of many in American media."

        Moore is a fringe figure in the american media.

        "But what do French people do about knowing that their President is a lying, theiving, hack? At least the Yanks require that theirs have never been caught before."

        That's why they reelected Clinton and his impeachment failed? It's the same as with Chirac or Schröder, you have alternatives that suck even more to a majority of the electorate.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by HershOstropoler
          Moore is a fringe figure in the american media.
          He's a succesful television personality, bestselling author and Oscar winner. True, he isn't necessarily the voice of the people, and certainly isn't a spokesperson for the media, but clearly his opinions are of significant interest to a very large number of people.
          Personally, I think he's a vulgar, pompous, self-righteous, opinionated *******, but it's still very interesting to hear what he has to say.
          Dismissing him as a 'fringe figure' doesn't seem right to me.
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          • #50
            His own books and movies, yes. But what role does he play on the networks and in the broadsheets?
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Asher
              Yes, CNN didn't show the full 15 minute long uncut material used for the CNN report. Why?
              Because the footage is staged.

              If they were showing the truth, why did they have to film the same soldier "attacking" an Iraqi tank twice? What the hell is the point of showing an anti-tank missile blasting an abandoned APC?

              That is plain and simple propaganda.
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              • #52
                oooo, at last someone dares to use the P word.

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                • #53
                  Of course CNN's coverage of the war has strong elements of propaganda. So does the BBC's coverage. And Al Jazeera's. Etc etc etc...

                  What's new?
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                  • #54
                    I think both BBC and al-Jazeera are much better than CNN, though BBC's continuous display of gullibility (repeatedly reporting Umm Qsar and Basra captured by UK forces) doesn't help.
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                    • #55
                      As long as the reports from journalists rely directly upon information given to them by the military on either side, or are directly monitored by the Iraqi regime (as is the case of the reporters 'on the ground' in Baghdad) then it will be impossible to avoid propaganda seeping into the news - even if the reporters have the best of intentions.
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                      • #56
                        I try and stay well away from the 24 hour news networks. The very rarely have anything interesting to report. The whole thing seems to be filled with aimless speculation since their air time is so empty (even during this time of war) of anything resembling facts that they feel compelled to report every vague rumour or unsubstantiated opinion as 'news'.

                        I really dislike the BBC service, but sadly it's still the best TV news I've ever seen.

                        Which reminds me, we haven't had a "Isn't the BBC license fee a huge rip-off?" thread for a while.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Asher


                          Yeah, okay, I've seen footage far worse than that on American TV stations.
                          You did ?!?! When and where? In a movie?

                          BTW, I realize this wasn't a rant of yours, it was a troll.

                          A very typical one, where the lefty Euro shrugs and sighs, puts forth a really weird and incomprehensible argument and wags a finger saying "and you guys in America wouldn't know this since your stations don't ever show it!". When, in fact, they've shown far worse than that. Sometimes live, even.
                          Now THIS is trolling. And second, America is the only country where dead american corpses aren't shown.

                          Get over it -- CNN didn't deem it newsworthy to show guns jamming every time it occurs. Oh the humanity of it all.
                          You just didn't get what he ment. It was supposed to be all action and stuff for the camera when the gun jammed. It was all made up. Read again, slowly, and you'll understand.

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                          -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
                            Dismissing him as a 'fringe figure' doesn't seem right to me.
                            He's the left's less successful version of Rush Limbaugh.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Spectator
                              And second, America is the only country where dead american corpses aren't shown.
                              Where did you get that idea from? They had no problem showing US soldiers being drug through the streets of Mogadishu.
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                              • #60
                                So wait... you are saying CNN is forged because of a 'report' done by a German tv station? What makes them credible?
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