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  • #31
    Originally posted by UberKruX
    surely, you will admit the Axis were in a better position than Iran to attack america. hell, the axis was better off than the entire arab world at the time (realitively speaking)
    Neither have or had a realistic chance of winning.

    It all depends on the objective. Iran may think they are next on the Axis of Evil to face military attack. Why not pre-empt, while US forces are tied up. Go for a bloody protracted war that ruins Bush and have a new President that will leave Iran well alone.
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    • #32
      If Iran invaded with all their might right now, I'd probably laugh my ass off. That would put the nail in the coffin of the Bush dictarorship. With the American forces cut off from supply and surrounded, they'd be pretty screwed. Though they might be able to fight their way back to the coast. Good luck trying to reenforce them by sea with Iranian silkworms ready to sink them.
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      • #33
        that's what I've been thinking. If Iran/Syria or any other Arab nation decided to get involved in the Iraqi conflict, America would be screwed. Not to mention if N. Korea was to act, I don't think the U.S. would be able to stop every conflict there.

        I'm pretty worried that Iraq is just stalling for time so that other Arab nation's can prepare a counterattack.

        I just hope we kick terrorist a**, though.
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        • #34
          Don't know which fits.
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          • #35
            Yes, Iran may not be a superpower militarily spoken, but their advantage are numbers... hordes of crazy Iranians might wreak havoc you know


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            • #36
              It'd be interesting if Israel would be given the "green light" by America to raise hell on a broader scale in the Middle East if Iran did attack U.S. forces in Kuwait and Iraq.

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              • #37
                They should have warned the Syrians privately. No need to get the general public frightened about drawing in the whole Arab world.
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                • #38
                  Yes, we need to attack Syria. I gather that we are going after threats now, that have evil regimes, oppressors, and are supporters of terrorism, and openly against us. I think most of us agrees, that Iraq is not the biggest threat. It's a threat, but relatively small. So, if we are doing what we are saying, we need to go after all these troubling countries. No mercy for any country. If we stop here.. then why did we attack Iraq, and let the other ones be? Let's get them all while we're at it.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Frogger
                    They should have warned the Syrians privately. No need to get the general public frightened about drawing in the whole Arab world.
                    Rummy doesn't know how to do anything privately. He likes to come out both guns firing.

                    Out international relations are being totally screwed by this man.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Tassadar5000


                      Saudi Arabia is more of a threat that Syria is. Israel is more of a threat than Saudi Arabia is. Egypt is more of a threat than Israel is.

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                      Russia is more of a threat than Al Qaeda is. China is more of a threat than Russia is. And thats it.
                      More of a threat to whom?
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                      • #41
                        If Iran invaded with all their might right now, I'd probably laugh my ass off. That would put the nail in the coffin of the Bush dictarorship. With the American forces cut off from supply and surrounded, they'd be pretty screwed. Though they might be able to fight their way back to the coast. Good luck trying to reenforce them by sea with Iranian silkworms ready to sink them.
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                        • #42
                          If Syria does not listen, what could we do to them that would be real nasty short of war? Roosevelt cut Japan off from oil forcing them to make a choice: Get out of China and IndoChina or die as a nation. Is this possible in the case of Syria?

                          As to Iran, why in the world would they invade Iraq?
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                            If Iran invaded with all their might right now, I'd probably laugh my ass off.
                            So would I, but for different reasons. Define "all their might?" - suicide battalions charging up the al Faw peninsula? I don't think we really give a **** what they do in the Zagros mountains, it's not key to our area of operations.

                            That would put the nail in the coffin of the Bush dictarorship.
                            You know, if people were so bent about the 2000 election results, why did they elect more Republicans in 2002? I can't stand the dumb SOB, but your calling it a dictatorship really detracts from any seriousness your message carries.


                            With the American forces cut off from supply and surrounded, they'd be pretty screwed.
                            If that ever happened, yes. Fortunately, the likelihood of the Iranian Air Force ever interdicting our aerial resupply capability is less than the likelihood of you and I being the winning Presidential ticket in 2004.


                            Though they might be able to fight their way back to the coast.
                            We'd continue on Baghdad and take care of the first problem. The Iranians demonstrated for years how hard it is to get untracked out of the al Faw peninsula. Worst case is we'd call up the remainder of the 82 ABD and do a bunch of forced entry missions at Iraqi airfields, then prep them for use of our bombers. If the Iranians came at us over land anywhere, we'd make their staging and departure areas look like the dark side of the moon.


                            Good luck trying to reenforce them by sea with Iranian silkworms ready to sink them.
                            If the Iranians tried it, we would ass**** them and anyone else in our way. Silkworm batteries aren't mobile, and between AEGIS coverage and continuous airstrikes on every military asset on the gulf coast, we'd get through. The Iranians would have better odds using Boghammers.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Ned
                              If Syria does not listen, what could we do to them that would be real nasty short of war? Roosevelt cut Japan off from oil forcing them to make a choice: Get out of China and IndoChina or die as a nation. Is this possible in the case of Syria?

                              As to Iran, why in the world would they invade Iraq?
                              To establish a Shiite dominance over the gulf and gain market power wrt oil. For a start.
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                              • #45
                                Given how the Us is sending tens of thousands more men to Iraq than seems to have been planned at the beginning, the US certainly does not have the ability to also try to start a war with Syria. Or with Iran. The Us has a mandate only for a war with Iraq, no other, and if the Us tried then it would speel political disaster: the Europeans, even our allies, would be up in arms and this coolition we have would desert us pretty damn fast.

                                Military victory is not the point of this war: it is political victory we seek, and the deeper we get and the more enemies we make in the region, the further and further political victory becomes.

                                I think there is little the US could do to stop shipments from Syria into Iraq. We can't cover the roads all the time, and hell, they could just go by camel.
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