US losing faith in Canada

[KrazyHorse]

You might also note that they received quite a few votes in Ontario last go around.

I can't wait till next election.

Running 4th in the polls, aren't they? And continuing to stick their heads in the sand about it too...

"Honestly! Those look nothing like our internal poll numbers. We choose not to believe them"

[Spiffor]

Thanks for the description Frogger

NYE, I'm interested. What does this party (which I assume is yours) stand for ? Is there a big gap in its electorate between Alberta and the rest of Canada ?

Edit : ad when are next elections ?

[Willem]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Let me guess, the Canadian alliance is a bunch of Albertans only wishing to be part of the US ?

Not just Albertans but mostly; it's mainly a western party. And their goal is to remake Canada in the image of the US. Most people aren't buying it though, especially in the east.

[Ned]

I find it amazing that Canada threw in with the French and not with the US, UK and Australians and the rest of the coalition.

Americans will remember. This will affect relations for awhile.

As to the point that many Canadians are against the war because it might cause more problems than it solves - two points.

First, that is primarily the US's concern since we will be the targets. Raising this issue is almost like saying that Canada does not support the war because it will be costly to the American taxpaer.

Second, it cannot possibly be bad for the US and the world to have a democratic, pro-US government in Iraq vs. leaving Saddam in power.

[KrazyHorse]

Yes. Last election they managed to put together significant support in BC and Saskatchewan too (the neighbouring provinces) to the extent of winning the majority of seats from those two.

But in the rest of the country they won 3 or 4 seats out of the 200 remaining.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Thanks for the description Frogger

NYE, I'm interested. What does this party (which I assume is yours) stand for ? Is there a big gap in its electorate between Alberta and the rest of Canada ?

Edit : ad when are next elections ?

A while.

Last elections were 2001. The next elections must be called by 2006, most likely in 2005.

They're not a serious threat to forming the government in the foreseeable future. The Liberals have that locked up for a while. They might be able to force a coalition government (though if they did that, the Liberals would choose to govern with the aid of the NDP, not the CA).

But as things are looking right now, their support crested a while ago, and is busy receding.

[notyoueither]

Stand for?

They are a populist party that sprang from disillusionment with our current traditions and structures of government. It started on the Prairies, like many populist movements in Canada have, such as the CCF (our Socialists) and the Progressives (got co-opted by the Conservatives).

There is a high concentration of conservatives in the party, so they typically have conservative social and economic platforms.

They are not my party, btw. I don't belong to any party. I switch voting between the Liberals and the Conservatives.

Frogger is correct that the Liberals will be the government for the forseeable future.

[Willem]

Originally posted by cinch


Ding ding! Yes, exactly; perfect point.

Obviously, Saddam is much more of a threat than two imposing alliances of modernised nations...

You missed the sarcasm. In both of those conflicts, Canada was involved from the very beginning. The US on the other hand sat on their butts for years before they finally decided to get their noses bloodied. They may have sat out WWII entirely if it wasn't for Peral Harbour.

[KrazyHorse]

Oh God. You vote Liberal?

Kill him!

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Willem


You missed the sarcasm. In both of those conflicts, Canada was involved from the very beginning. The US on the other hand sat on their butts for years before they finally decided to get involved. They may have sat out WWII entirely if it wasn't for Peral Harbour.

Actually, you missed the sarcasm...

[Spiffor]

Thx for the description you two. I learned something tonight.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Frogger


Actually, you missed the sarcasm...

Ah yes, so I did.

[KrazyHorse]

The key hint was the part about Saddam being more of a threat than Germany.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Willem


Not just Albertans but mostly; it's mainly a western party. And their goal is to remake Canada in the image of the US. Most people aren't buying it though, especially in the east.

Nice try.

More CA MPs come from BC, than Alberta (Alberta returned a higher percentage though; 23 of 26 vs 26 of 34). They took over half of Saskatchewan, a few in Manitoba and a couple in Ontario.

I wouldn't say they are after an American image. Elected upper houses are being discussed in Westminster now, too.

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by Spectator


U.S. would be there for Canada?!?! Yea riiiiight! Only if there's money for the U.S. to make at the end of the line, otherwise we would'nt even here from them.

U.S. only helps others if they have something to gain from it....


Spec.

oh, come the f*ck on. the US and Canada are practically brothers. If a similiar suitation arose and you asked us, we'd be right behind you.

the only difference is that you don't go out looking for trouble in the first place. we're like that big brother that always gets into fights. if you were hurt we'd be all "LETS F*CK THOSE GUYS UP, YO!"

anyway, i think this story is bullsh*t. they're just trying to badmouth the coalition of the "non-willing", with no purpose really.