Coalition tactics - Post your critics here

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by carnide_
Looks like the coalition command was reading this tread!
Can someone else's post another idea/target, to see if they do it/bomb it?

Kuwait City.

[aaglo]

It all seems like Russia vs. Finland in ww2.

Russians launched the attack against Finland on the 30th of November. Stalin thought that the russian troops would celebrate Stalin's birthday (21st december) in Helsinki. They were a bit surprised about the resistance. The russians were going 'to liberate the finnish pesants from the opression of the capitalists'.

Does this seem a bit familiar with the current Iraq war?

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by aaglo
It all seems like Russia vs. Finland in ww2.

Russians launched the attack against Finland on the 30th of November. Stalin thought that the russian troops would celebrate Stalin's birthday (21st december) in Helsinki. They were a bit surprised about the resistance. The russians were going 'to liberate the finnish pesants from the opression of the capitalists'.

Does this seem a bit familiar with the current Iraq war?

Well no, because Finland anhilated entire Soviet divisions this isn't going to happen here

[aaglo]

And the compulsory rant.

Why is it acceptable to let USA and it's allies to have wepuhsuhmusdustruchuh, and at the same time deny the same weapons from their enemies?

What happened to the good-ol-Balance-of-Horror?

[Paul Hanson]

Last time I checked, the US wasn't in the habit of using them in a pre-emptive strike against it's enemies.

[Fidel]

Originally posted by TheStinger


Well no, because Finland anhilated entire Soviet divisions this isn't going to happen here

well, americans will eliminate entire british platoons, for a change

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by LaRusso


well, americans will eliminate entire british platoons, for a change

i don't understand the point you are tring to make.

My coment about the Finn/SU war was accurate

[Urban Ranger]

Instead of seiging Basra, I heard that the Brits will instead enter the city and fight the Iraqis in the streets. I think that's a big, big mistake.

[TheStinger]

They will not enetr until they are sure a revolt is under way and doing well.

[Fidel]

Originally posted by TheStinger


i don't understand the point you are tring to make.

My coment about the Finn/SU war was accurate

not really accurate.
my point was there there will be losses, there are some already, mostly, according to your news because of friendly fire, and certainly more in the days ahead
so aaglos comparison is not that irrelevant, while of course, the situation is not really the same

[TheStinger]

So are you saying SU divions wern't completely stomped on by the Finns in that war. Or are you saying when they took casualties they were all freindly fire. ( I know those commisars were trigger happy but thats ridiculous)

There will not be thousands of US/UK casualties so its not th same situation at all

[aaglo]

Stinger -

What I meant, was that the US/UK troops seemed to be so sure that this war would be quickly over. Well, it propably will be, but there is allways a chance for the unexpected. In FIN/USSR war it was the lack of intelligence/espionage/surveillance. In the Iraq war it could be something else, like huge sandstorms.

[CerberusIV]

I think the problem is that the politicians need a quick war and probably deluded themselves into the idea that ordinary Iraqis would welcome coalition forces and the regime would collapse. The military people were probably less optimistic, certainly in the UK, but the politicians didn't want to hear that message.

This will take several weeks, perhaps months before there is enough progress to begin withdrawal. Having got this far the political leaders really can't afford to stop so the war (and casualties on both sides) will go on.

[Myrddin]

I believe it is more complex than that

Regime collapse is unpredictable, remember Bucharest where a large crowd was gathered to hear the great leader speak; a few unknown people started booing, and suddenly everyone stopped fearing the regime which fell very quickly

Once the population really believes 'that the Americans will be here in a few days' collapse will come very soon

The start of this will be when the top men in the regime stop believing that they can win; probably after the Republican Guard have been annihilated

[Agathon]

What if the coalition "takes" Bagdhad and is faced with thousands of irregular guerilla combatants who are fanatically motivated and willing to take a shot at every white face. Hell, that'd be like Vietnam..

I've said this before: whatever the justness of taking out the regime, this war is a strategic mistake borne of hubris.

Has anyone considered the possibility that ordinary Iraquis might see Saddam as the lesser of two evils? That certainly seems to be the prevailing attitude.