Originally posted by Sten Sture I'm sure they have the range to do a round trip, but tell me there is almost 0% chance that F-14s are that far north.
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The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
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grumbler! where ya been?Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
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Is grumbler one of Horsie's DL's?(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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No he's Rimmer I think.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
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Rimmer was never my DL, poor guy.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
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Originally posted by GePap
Maybe at the Frank's holiday home..but out here in the real world, it is not. In the Gulf War the US army performed way beyond expectations, and today what people remember is the cool bomb footage.
Had the RG put up a fight then we would not be here with someone calling Frank's attack brilliant..if it was airstrikes that broke the Rg then its the guy who put otgether the airwar that should get kudos, but the fact is that someone does not become "legendary" becuase the enemy turned out to be weaker than anyone expected.http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en
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Originally posted by Ned
One could say the exact same thing about Alexander's defeat of the Persions.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
welcome to the Pentagon, and everyone has to get in on the action...
grumbler - welcome back by the way. 3200km range on Tomcats on the source I checked, but never sure how to read those kinda range numbers versus the burn rate of 30 seconds over target.Last edited by Sten Sture; April 9, 2003, 01:38.Be the bid!
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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
"we"? somtimes you sound like you're directing ops
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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Not really - Persia was a superpower. Their total defeat by a small Greek army was a stupendous feat of arms.
Besides, I believe the Greeks had far superior weapons than the Persians. Their Phalanx was nearly invincible at the time, IIRC. The comparison between an Iraqi 72 and an American M1 is apt.
Finally, the way the Greeks used their cavalry is very much like the way we used our airforce.
The Greek victory, in retrospect, was not surprising at all.http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en
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It was surprising only because people didn't know, at the time, how effective the Greek weapons and tactics were. They were new (or at least fairly new), and hence one wouldn't have known them to be so powerful, especially as they had never been tried against an enemy on the scale of Persia.
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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
grumbler! where ya been?
It feels... strange to be back here again and see so many posters that were here in the olden days still posting. A more loyal lot than I!
And I'm not any DL. If I'm there, I'm grumbler.The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
- A. Lincoln
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Originally posted by Sten Sture forgot about that fundamental rule! Now it makes perfect sense. Let's just hope the Navy doesn't feel like the SSBNs have been left out.
grumbler - welcome back by the way. 3200km range on Tomcats on the source I checked, but never sure how to read those kinda range numbers versus the burn rate of 30 seconds over target.The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
- A. Lincoln
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