How psyched up are the Iraqis for a guerilla warfare in Bagdat.

[Bereta_Eder]

When you get grannies and 5 year olds tottin' that kalasnikov square in your face from their balconies, it gets nasty.


Do you think the Iraqis are psyched up enough to mount a geniune urban guerilla warfare counteroffensive against the US/UK invasion?


Also what does your "sources" tell you about how many Iraqis civilians have arms?

[DanS]

I seem to remember that a great many Iraqi civilians were being armed by Hussein (and some were purchasing their own), but that he had not passed out ammunition (yet).

[Urban Ranger]

I saw on TV a while ago, a lot of civilians are buying weapons and ammo on their own accord.

[Lefty Scaevola]

"How psyched up are the Iraqis for a guerilla warfare in Bagdat?"
I think that most of them would prefer a tript to the dentist for a root canal operation.

[Bereta_Eder]

Thanks.

BTW how are the angloamerican **** going to capture Bagdat if not by sending ground troops in?

LS - that's the dental torture resistance factor to US questioning, different thing.

[Kropotkin]

I think it's hard to know. While the support for Hussein alone shouldn't make that many people do that but on the other hand people have a tendency to take it personal when someone attacks their home. Probably the development up until a possible assault* will affect their fighting spirit.

* Possible only, it's quite possible that the US army isn't willing to take a risk on a assault and besiege the city 'til they surrender.

[Bereta_Eder]

Besiege Bagdat?
I see, thanks.

[Chemical Ollie]

Mogadishu will probably be the closest comparison. Berlin or Grozny-style is not likely, mostly beacuse US will rather back off than sacrificing all those troops.

[GePap]

If Basra is any model, cooliton troops will surround the city and then hope for a surrender of the defenders as to avoid any fighting in it. I wonder how well that will work in the north.

It seems that in Basra, the regular forces, as expected, gave up, but the Security forces are not. hmm, I wonder how mnay men make up Saddam's security apparatus?

[Kropotkin]

Only my personal speculation. If the US surround the city they will probably give up after a while. Just bomb them until they are ready to embrace american democracy.

[Bereta_Eder]

UR I see thanks.

Who could supply Bagdat if they besieg it?

And wouldn't scores die in order for the angloamericans to do it "correctly?" = make scores die to make them surrender?

[Kropotkin]

Gepap: I believe i've read a figure around 50,000 men out of witch 10,000 are the core elite; the special guards.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
Only my personal speculation. If the US surround the city they will probably give up after a while. Just bomb them until they are ready to embrace american democracy.

Thats what they're doing now. However they have to try and be careful so they dont kill them massively and bring up more public outrage against the US/UK.

WHich leaves 3 alternatives?

_bomb them and kill them anyway untill they surrender
_besieg the city
_send in gorund troops


what do you think?

[GePap]

If people are arming themselves in Iraq, those weapons are more likely to be used against each other once the regime falls than to defend the regime.

[DinoDoc]

Where is Bagdat? Never heard of it.