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[GePap]

Iraqi state Media says 200 civilians injured. Given the extent of the bombing, that is not a very high number.

On topic: Reports about how mnay and how Iraqis are becoming POWS sem confusing. Also, if so many are givng up, were are they being kept? and where are the pics, dam it! Last time aorund, we very quickly had TV footage of large caps of POWS. As of now, I see a small bunch here, a little colum there..

Also, as for them calling this war "unprecdented, never seen strike, blah, blah , blah": the accuracy of the air war, that is new. As for the scale and rapid advancement of the ground forces: not new.

[Bereta_Eder]

There are some simple facts.

Even through the telephone adn video phone (the Greek oens and I'm sure others) you could see whole squares of buildings being blown up.

In the hospitals came people, children, old men amongst them without an arm there, with no eyes etc.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to do the math.

Now if you want to count how many civilians have been massacred by the myriads of bombs and calculate it, I don't think I want to bother.

[DanS]

They also said 3 killed. I don't know what to make of it. They should have said that more were killed, I guess.

[Urban Ranger]

Stefu,




GePap,

That's why there's no point in watching them all the time.

[Bereta_Eder]

I don't think there's much sence in doing that.

You can simply add, 2.000 civilians killed in Yugoslavia (and who knows how many soldiers), we don't yet know about Afganistan etc.

When you start counting by the thousands the people who are killed by US/UK bombs it doesn't really have any meaning I think.

Also it still hasn't gotten to the guerilla fighting in Bagdat yet.

According to sources the only way it's gonna be a quick war is someone toppling Sadam while the massacre goes on.

[DanS]

Re the oil well fires, they had footage of those, but they seemed much smaller than I would have guessed, given the gas pressure on these wells (thousands of pounds of pressure, IIRC).

[Kropotkin]

"Heavy fighting"
I don't know if this one can call this propaganda, probably more like journalists trying to get attention and sell air time. All the time you hear about heavy fighting, and the result is a couple of dead marines at most. Come on, I'm sure it's not a holiday on the ground and a lot of surplus ammo is in the air but heavy fighting for me is Stalingrad.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
What about Scud attacks on Kuwait? I saw it in a couple of places, but there are no confirmations. Ditto with the "Iraqi setting oil fields on fire" stories.

These reports are correct. Swedish TV journalists have been on location in both cases, and that was on the news last night.

One Scud was shot out of the air just 100 meters above the head of the reporter, and everyone around became very nervous and put on chemsuits. The whole sequence was on camera.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
"Heavy fighting"
I don't know if this one can call this propaganda, probably more like journalists trying to get attention and sell air time. All the time you hear about heavy fighting, and the result is a couple of dead marines at most. Come on, I'm sure it's not a holiday on the ground and a lot of surplus ammo is in the air but heavy fighting for me is Stalingrad.

The Iraqis would probably call it heavy fighting. The Americans call it being pinned down.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Olaf HÃ¥rfagre


These reports are correct. Swedish TV journalists have been on location in both cases, and that was on the news last night.

One Scud was shot out of the air just 100 meters above the head of the reporter, and everyone around became very nervous and put on chemsuits. The whole sequence was on camera.

What he meant is calling the missiles SCUDS. Iraq has a host of tactical ground to ground missiles, many of which, like the FROG or Al Samoud I's are within the permitted range. SCUDS are not, and their use would be proof Iraq had banned systems.

I wonder..we took locations in the western Desert, yet I have not heard any reports of the Us finding and taking out any SCUD launchrs with missiles? were there simply no SCUDS to find?

[Willem]

Originally posted by Azazel
Turkish entrance into northen iraq, seems to be false, as well. Both the Turks and the Kurds denied it.

No, the Turks have said flat out that they'll be sending a small force up to 12 miles within Iraq, with the option to go in further if they feel it's within their national interests to do so.

[Willem]

Originally posted by paiktis22


Now if you want to count how many civilians have been massacred by the myriads of bombs and calculate it, I don't think I want to bother.

But even the Iraqis have said that only 250 people have been injured. Why would they downplay the casualities if they're as severe as you say? If anything, they would exaggerate them upwards into the thousands, not lower them to what they are now. Your argument makes no sense in the face of the facts as we have them so far.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Case
Several major US military units are noticable for their total lack of media coverage though - I haven't heard anything about the US 2nd Marine or 82nd Airborne divisions despite both formations having large numbers of troops in the region.

101 ABD is in Iraq, 82 ABD has troops rotated to Afghanistan now, having relieved 101 ABD there some time ago.

2 MarDiv may be attached as part of 1 MEF (Marine Expeditionary Force) as it was last time, but there's only so many roads, and so many staging areas that the invasion was launched from, so a lot of US forces are follow-on forces.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Willem
Your argument makes no sense in the face of the facts as we have them so far.

You have now discovered the essense of Paiktis.

[Willem]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


You have now discovered the essense of Paiktis.

And several other posters as well. Truth is definitely the first casuality of this war! I don't think I've ever seen a situation that has brought about more "spin" than I'm seeing now, on both sides.