Flag waving.......Flag burning

[Imran Siddiqui]

I suppose they also consented to letting the government just shoot them at will, huh?

No, they volunteered to defend the nation. They made the grave mistake of voluteering for an immoral, aggressive organization, but that doesn't make forcing them to fight moral.

They didn't volunteer to 'defend the nation' or else they'd be in the National Guard (which is sent anyway, tough). The Army, Navy, AF all are sent around the world to advance US interests. They knew it signing up.

[Dis]

I knew in the navy no country would have the balls to take on one of our navy ships.

An aircraft carrier is safer than nearly every american city.

Although terrorists have shown the weakness of ships in port.

In any case if people didn't love their country when the joined the military they would essentually be blood thirsty killers or mercenaries. I mentioned that in an earlier thread. I don't consider myself a merc.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Dissident
says a person who lives in a country protected by another country with patriotic people.

Protected from what?

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Frogger


Protected from what?

Americans


If they wheren't defending us, they'd probably be invading us.

[yavoon]

freedom of speech works both ways. you can burn the flag and people can call you unpatriotic )@(#* for doing it. sometimes that is lost.

the flag burners feel it is not only their right to burn it, but their right to not be ridiculed for it.

[chequita guevara]

Actually, I think they feel they shouldn't be assaulted for it, which is fair.

[yavoon]

if u mean physically, yes. if u mean ridiculed, no.

[Odd]

It´s funny... everytime I read a pro-war post, I sympathize more with the anti-war cause...

- We´re fighting for freedom, the freedom to blindly support everything the White House decides! That´s why we hate those french, openly opposing the most powerful nation on earth in it´s moment of rage. That´s so coward! Why don´t they have the courage to obey the strong and attack the weak? Besides, if you oppose war, you oppose America!

and then there´re the anti-war... everytime I read an anti-war post I think that pro-war might be right after all...

- We´re so sad that America is answering violence and hate with more violence and hate... So how do we convince americans that we can all live in a world of love, with no unilateral decisions, where everyone respects everyone country´s and oppinion´s? By cursing their name, hating their country, calling their president a nazi and burning everything they hold dear, of course!!


*Note - This was just a joke towards the more radical edges, of course most posters don´t think like that.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by yavoon
if u mean physically, yes. if u mean ridiculed, no.

In what world does "assaulted" mean "ridiculed?" Threatening and ridiculing are two very different things. One's illegal, the other isn't.

[Alex]

Dear Bad People: Take notice. The Marines are coming, and they're pissed!! Love, America

Typical.

Since I'm anti-war, I guess I'm one of the "bad people". If this is true, I only ask the marines to kill me swiftly, without pain. Thanks.

[Dis]

I'm sure the marines will abide by your wishes- not

They will kill you slowly with great deals of pain.

Those murderous marines will prevail!!

[yavoon]

yes and I never insinuated that they should be physically assaulted. so obviously my brain had a hard time understanding why u were replying to me.


especially considering I was relating specifically in the domain of freedom of speech. ur post in hinesight seems rather useless.

[Alex]

Diss, do you really believe that the war is motivated for a genuine and humane effort to free Iraqi people from oppression? I'm asking because I find it hard to believe that someone could be so naïve...

[Dis]

I do not know what Bush is thinking in his head. So I cannot answer your question. Bush may be going to war for the wrong reasons.

And I do not support those reasons.

I have my own reasoning for supporting this war. They may or may not be the same reasons Bush has. I cannot get inside his head.

[Alex]

Too bad you're not in command, huh?