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  • #61
    I went to the protest. it was great fun. First we blocked off 9th and Market, then 10th and Market, then Van Ness and Market. There were no polices. We stole a cone and turned it into a megaphone. a pro war man stood ontop of his mini van with a sign that said 'support your troops. go war.' the anarchists in the crowd (they covered their faces and moved in crowds) ripped the sign from the guys hands and ripped it up on the street

    Then we took the underground to Market and Montogomery. There was a lot of police there and they had everything under control. the people were massing on the sidewalks, the fire department was cutting through the people locked together with the metal tubes. We ditched the cone and stole a bucket and made a drum. we watched as they turned public transit buses into arrested people's transportation buses. the police also used them to get around. the police all had riot gear, teargas guns, and batons.
    a lot of the time at montgomery we spent insulting the cops (get your donuts here. get your bags of steak fajitas here. do you know why the pigs look so unhappy? its because they are wearing those hot bullet proof vests and those hot helmets and they eat too much)

    nothing much was happening so we headed off of market and then back onto it, around the police blockade. this was 4th and market now. the intersection was also closed. on the south side of the intersection, the police had formed a line and they were starting to push the crowd back. a group of 30 police officers parted through the crowd were we were on the north side. we follwed right behind them beating the drum until they went into their 'attack formation' then we skipped around the block and got onto the other side.

    we were about 3 feet from the cops as they steadily advanced and pushed us back to the next intersection. again, we were insulting them. this one girl got beat with a baton because she got too close to the advancing line. when we got to 5th and market, the police had blocked off three of the four streets. so the whole crowd headed off of market and walked toward the federal building, city hall, or around the police blockade and back onto market.

    we got separted at that point. we got back onto market street. the police were in the north, and suddenly while we were walking towards the protestors, the police started running towards us and cut off the protestors from the south on market street. the first officer who was cutting us off was a short latina. she ran into me and hit me with her baton. i fell into my friend, and we both hit the ground. we were the last to cross the line into that protest group. we kept on walking forward looking for our friends, but they werent there. with police in both the north and south, they let us escape through a narrow corridor.

    we then went to mel's drive in on Van Ness and Geary. the friends who got separted called us and started to come to the diner. while we were eating, the protest passed up going north on Van Ness. We saw a lot of our friends go by. after finishing eating, and reunited with my friends, we walked north on Van Ness. We passed the gas station on Pine and Van Ness which had like 150 police all standing around. When we got to California Street, we saw the protestors at the top of the hill, on taylor street. We could also watch their progress by where all the helicopters were located (There were like five) we then walked and caught up with the tail end of them at Mason Street. There is a steep hill going downwards which leads into the Financial District and you could see thousands of people walking. it was a great sight.
    we the joined the main crowd when the march tunred onto market. we met two more groups of friends at the sit down.

    we then got a report that the federal building needed some help, so we went there. there were about 50 protestors at the time and about 10 cops. hundreds of people converged on the same place at the same time. at first the cops tried to keep us back on the sidewalks, but we pushed them back until their backs were against the wall. we left right before they were about to break it up.

    on the way home, i found one of those steel pipes that the protestors used to chain their hands together. it had been sawed off by the SFFD and was lying on the side of the street. i took it home.
    i learned later that three of my friends had been arrested and then released.

    it was my first protest and it was really fun.
    "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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    • #62
      Meaning only rich people will be allowed to have a voice.


      This shouldn't hurt the anti-war movement. Most protestors are spoiled college students...
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      • #63
        and most war supporters are spoiled college students who prefer that the minorities of america go risk themselves for the country, while they stay at home a reap the benefits.
        "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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        • #64
          most war supporters are spoiled college students


          Now that's not true. You must try harder...
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Willem


            Julian Fantino, the Toronto police chief, is proposing some draconian regulations in order to control protests. The civil libertarians are already up in arms about it. I don't know the details of the plan though. One thing I heard was a group would have to pay some sort of bond in order to be cleared for a protest. Meaning only rich people will be allowed to have a voice.
            I'm talking about the ordinary cops who have been really good so far. I hope they won't spoil it tomorrow. Fantino is a nut. He will get himself into trouble if he starts attacking the anti-war protestors anyway. Too many of them are respectable and middle class.
            Only feebs vote.

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            • #66
              just cuz you ignore it, doesnt make it go away.
              "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Agathon


                Hardly - we got an overwhelmingly positive response from motorists here in TO. You know - honking, smiling, waving, etc.
                If you paid attention to my first post I was referring to Mexican protests involving domestic issues. They are simply terrible.

                On the other hand our anti-war protests are much more decent, lots of people outside the Embassy...but not blocking traffic or holding up our most important streets.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
                  and most war supporters are spoiled college students who prefer that the minorities of america go risk themselves for the country, while they stay at home a reap the benefits.
                  Nah - most war supporters are "Stupid White Guys".

                  You know the people I mean - usually 25+ with a bit of education but profound political ignorance. Considers himself an "individual" and whines about minorities all the time (who have cheated him out of being a success).

                  Looks like a loser and is hopeless with women as well - which explains why he loves the chickenhawk stance so much - I mean what could be more manly than talking with feigned competence about "fire zones" and having a hard on for a war you won't personally fight.

                  I don't know about you, but I find it obnoxious when weedish little dorks start getting militaristic - definitely a sign of major sexual problems. Maybe they should just get laid...
                  Only feebs vote.

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                  • #69
                    Nah - most war supporters are "Stupid White Guys".


                    See Lawrence? That's how you troll. It has to have some truth to it...
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Master Zen


                      If you paid attention to my first post I was referring to Mexican protests involving domestic issues. They are simply terrible.

                      On the other hand our anti-war protests are much more decent, lots of people outside the Embassy...but not blocking traffic or holding up our most important streets.
                      Sorry.

                      I don't object to people blocking traffic - but only on special occasions. On the other hand given the way I feel today I think I'd cheer if the anarchists torched the US consulate tomorrow.
                      Only feebs vote.

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                      • #71
                        except im not trying to troll.
                        "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                          Nah - most war supporters are "Stupid White Guys".


                          See Lawrence? That's how you troll. It has to have some truth to it...
                          Amply proved in this case.
                          Only feebs vote.

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                          • #73
                            except im not trying to troll.


                            So you're just completely ignorant? Ok, sorry for jumping on you...
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                            • #74
                              I went to the protest. it was great fun. First we blocked off 9th and Market, then 10th and Market, then Van Ness and Market. There were no polices. We stole a cone and turned it into a megaphone. a pro war man stood ontop of his mini van with a sign that said 'support your troops. go war.' the anarchists in the crowd (they covered their faces and moved in crowds) ripped the sign from the guys hands and ripped it up on the street
                              Freedom of speech doesn't apply to the anti-xxxxx movements alone.

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                              • #75
                                [quote] So you're just completely ignorant? Ok, sorry for jumping on you... [/quote[

                                what is that I hear? a personal attack? uh oh. everyone run for cover. except wait, thats what they are doing in baghdad right now.
                                do you happen to be a college student who is against the war because it wont affect you but you will profit from it?
                                i'll bet you are.
                                because you just don;t give a crap as long as you arnt on the line.
                                keep it up, maybe you can contribute to the end of the united states.
                                "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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