Bush Speech Thread

[Imran Siddiqui]

I am certain that Bush would eventually invade sometime down the line, possibly in a few months. Likely for reasons of so-called "Al Queda infiltration" or something equally Orwellian.

Why? Because you hate Bush so much that you think he's gonna kill everyone if he has the chance?

What is the 'new' country he is going to invade, btw?

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by Sava
PUT YOUR HANDS UP, GET OUT OF THE CAR!!

i'm suprised anti-war posters havent been brandishing some of the other lyrics in their sigs

[Felch]

There's a difference between constructive free speech ("Hey, we need to improve schools.") and worthless pandering-to-the-braindead free speech ("You're all Nazis.") Please recognize the difference. One is a civic responsibility, the other is just being a ****.

[Sava]

Well, I don't mean to beat up on Tass... I love the guy ... but the whole "America SuckS!!" thing gets old real quick. And despite your politics, we're still one country. And even if Bush becomes an evil dictator (not likely) I'll still never burn an American flag. IMO there's a line between bashing the president, bashing Republicans, being against war... and being anti-American. I just want Tass to recognize that so we can go back to bashing Bush.

[sleeperservice]

I hope that Sadam does not destroy Iraq oil wells .

[Drake Tungsten]

The US would be imposing its will on the territory and people of Iraq, given that they would not reasonably be able to set up a legitimate government in the time between exile and entrance of US forces.

No they wouldn't. They would be keeping things stable while the Iraqis set up their own new government. Since when is peacekeeping a form of conquest?

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Lincoln


The people who live in Iraq.

And they don't really have as much of a concept of nationhood as we expect. The Kurds don't want to be part of Iraq, they want an independent Kurdistan, and they'll be screwed silly by everyone, as usual. Otherwise, a good portion of Iraq will be overrun by the Turks.

The Shiite majority is a real problem for us, with a near-nuclear Iran. An Iran-Iraq alliance with a WMD capable Iran knocks the regional balance of power in the gulf all to hell. Tip: Invest in oil futures.

And I hope we don't give them anything.

Unfortunately, occupying powers have real precisely defined responsibilities under international law, and unless somebody sets up something that passes as a functional form of government, we're either going to be military rulers like the Romans in Judea, or else there's going to be a nice combination of anarchy, power vacuums, all that loose WMD hardware and capability, and a humanitarian crisis to boot. Not an easy situation for anyone.

The oppressive sanctions will be lifted though, no doubt, and they will have a new chance to screw up their country again if they like. I say, a change can be as good as a rest. Let's see what happens next.

The peace is far higher risk than the war - we know the outcome of the war with virtual certainty.

[Felch]

Originally posted by monkspider
Tass never said that he hated Americans, he implied that he could no longer support the actions of his country, and as a result, he has been told in no uncertain terms to go back to the motherland, by left-leaners no less.

If Tass gave a reasoned argument, people would have no problem. Instead he talks **** about our country every chance he gets, praises Russia, calls us Nazis, and trolls, trolls, trolls.

It's one thing to be proud of Russia, and to hate Utah. It's another thing to start flinging around epithets like Nazi just to get attention. That's when it pisses people off.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Frogger


I'm not arguing about the necessity of this; I just find it fairly strange that several people here think that the US would pack up and leave if Saddam exiled himself, when their own Secretary of State has said the exact opposite.

I'm not arguing with you, either. I agree with you. Doesn't it make you feel dirty?

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by sleeperservice
I hope that Sadam does not destroy Iraq oil wells .

i concur.

sure, you know we're going to take a cut, or make a deal after all is said and done, but what bush said tonight, that the oil belongs to the iraqi people, is true. that oil will be sold around the world to rebuild iraq.

[Sava]

Drake, Iraq is more likely to become unstable like the former Yugoslav region with this military action. But I agree, this isn't conquest.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Sava
Then hate the Republicans, not Americans... there's a difference between supporting the war and supporting the troops overseas. I'm probably the biggest Bush-hater around, but I've also got two buddies in the Marines. I'll fly my American flag high, despite the fact some dumbass president is tarnishing it.

I have a lot of Brothers-In -Christ whom are United States Marines, I work aboard several Marine Corps Bases, am in charge of supplying Ready Mix Concrete aboard The Largest Amphibious Training Base in the World [Camp LeJeune] for 80% that is used. I am proud to be a legitimate contractor and even prouder to be personal friends with many Marines, Officers (including Generals and former Generals) as well as enlisted.

I am proud to be a veteran and also extremely proud to be an American Citizen.

I am even more proud to call President Bush my Commander-In-Chief, not a dumb@$$ President. He is very intelligent and also has an extremely tough job, protecting our nation.

I pray that all U S Citizens get behind him, after all, we dont want more attacks of terrorism. I wouldnt want to wear his shoes, I can only imagine the anguish and turmoil he must be going through, trying to protect our Great Nation, from Threats, both Foreign and Domestic

~sigh~

I wonder how many people would support his actions, if we were again attacked in the magnitude of 9-1-1?

Shame that actions of terrorists dictate the actions and reactions of our Great Leadership, I say shame because we could offer much more, than War. But terrorists started on us and I honest believe in my heart President Bush needs to be strong and unwavering in his resolve to protect our nation!

Peace

Grandpa Troll

[Joseph]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

I am certain that Bush would eventually invade sometime down the line, possibly in a few months. Likely for reasons of so-called "Al Queda infiltration" or something equally Orwellian.

Why? Because you hate Bush so much that you think he's gonna kill everyone if he has the chance?

What is the 'new' country he is going to invade, btw?

I saw John McLaughlin one on one last night and he had these two ladies that are on congressional committees and they said Iran next.
It look like the axis of evil one at a time. If by July or Aug it is Iran, North Korea may just start shooting first.

[Sava]

Well, let's be honest here Troll, the terrorists hate us for legitimate reasons, despite the fact they are d1ckless 4ssholes. In conjuction with eliminating terrorist threats and increasing security, we should seek to stop the practices that inflamed these fanatics in the first place.

[faded glory]

Troll the pinheads here are so gonna call you a fascist/flag-waver/ignorant.