I've been approached by Quixtar...

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by H Tower


that's Pixar I believe

Yeah, they made great films such as Moderators Inc.

[Frankychan]

Quixtar apparently sells things like those large discount stores. (Costco, for example). Things ranging from toilet paper to herbal supplements and what nots.

I am still skeptical about this whole deal but am thinking about this. I'm not quite sure if I would be able to recruit other people below me tho, as my management skills are not equal to my interpersonal skills.

[General Ludd]

A door-to-door toiletpaper salesman is something I've always aspired to be.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Zkribbler
Technically, they aren't pyramid schemes because they sell a product. In a pyramid scheme, you just send money around.

IIRC, the difference between a pyramid scheme and a legit business is from where the company makes most of the money. If it is from recruiting people, it is a pyramid scheme, even though a bunch of these schemes tried to make themselves look legit by having "products" to sell.

[Frankychan]

Hmmm,

So U.R. this might be one of those kinds of schemes where they look legit, but actually aren't? What's your personal take on this situation? (You've helped me b4 so I trust your opinion among other ppl here )

[Urban Ranger]

Let me take a look around the Web to see if I can dig up anything. So Quixtar is just a new name for Amway - strangely, I cannot even read the press items on their website without being a member.

Okay, from this page I found:

For "Pro-Suming" IBOs and IBOs just "buying from themselves" with little retailing of product, AmQuix is nothing more than a "buyers club" pyramid scheme. IBO's in this mode willingly sacrifice their time and pay higher prices price studies so that they can participate in this last "legal" pyramid scheme.

On MLM Survivors the verdict against the company is less than glowing.

Even Skepdic classified it as a legal pyramid scheme.

So it does look like a pyramid scheme, after all.

[Frankychan]

Thanks a bunch U.R. I owe you.

I'll tell the guy that I'm not interested and let him down gently.

Once again, thanks for all your help guys!

[Frankychan]

Good Gosh!

I just read the article:

http://skepdic.com/amway.html

and it's freeking unbelievable! I went to one of these conventions and it is totally the truth! "Initiated" people wore clothing that was similar and they seemed to have enormous enthusiam. Also, I think some of these people were 'plants' who were placed in various areas of the crowd to work them up by yelling and laughing.

Oh jeez, this is pretty damn messed up. I gotta thank you once again for finding all this stuff out.........I couldn't find info like this when I was researching about Quixtar.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Frankychan
Good Gosh!

I just read the article:

http://skepdic.com/amway.html

and it's freeking unbelievable! I went to one of these conventions and it is totally the truth! "Initiated" people wore clothing that was similar and they seemed to have enormous enthusiam. Also, I think some of these people were 'plants' who were placed in various areas of the crowd to work them up by yelling and laughing.

Oh jeez, this is pretty damn messed up. I gotta thank you once again for finding all this stuff out.........I couldn't find info like this when I was researching about Quixtar.

Yep, they will plant people there to make it look realisitic. It's fradulant.

[Ted Striker]

The funny thing is that these companies will always point to Amway and Herbalife as credible role models. The problem is that both of those companies are scams to begin with.

Everyone and his mom is out selling vitamins these days.

[Frankychan]

Damn......and I gotta meet with the guy on Monday.....

I have one of their "packets" so I gotta meet him. I guess I'll just give him his stuff, listen to whatever pitch he gives (ok, I won't listen), thank him, and then leave.

thanks guys.

[Ted Striker]

Hey, really you don't owe him anything.

Throw it in the trash and don't ever talk to him if you don't want to. Don't even show up for the meeting if you don't feel comfortable.

[Frankychan]

Ah, I feel like I have to....it's the responsible thing to do. Even though you guys steered me on the right path, I have to return his merchandise and tell him face-to-face that I'm not interested.

Although I won't have anymore contact with him.....

[Static Universe]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Hey, really you don't owe him anything.

Throw it in the trash and don't ever talk to him if you don't want to. Don't even show up for the meeting if you don't feel comfortable.

Exactly. I wouldn't even go. They like to get to you through guilt, where all else fails.

You have to understand, this is these people's whole lives. They totally buy into the mentality of it, like a cult.

Just this weekend, a friend of mine was telling me about another friend of hers who is now involved in this rubber stamp/stationary sales thing. She's become totally absorbed in that world, spends all her time with these people, attends "Stamp Camps", etc. I mean, it's totally crazy.

Run, don't walk, away from it.

[Static Universe]

Originally posted by Frankychan
Ah, I feel like I have to....it's the responsible thing to do. Even though you guys steered me on the right path, I have to return his merchandise and tell him face-to-face that I'm not interested.

Although I won't have anymore contact with him.....

He only gave you that stuff so you'll do exactly what you're planning on doing. Toss it.