How Long Will Gulf War II Last?

[The Vagabond]

Re: How Long Will Gulf War II Last?

Originally posted by DanS
Some items of note. The Kuwait border to Baghdad is some 300 miles/500 kilometers. The top speed of the M1 A2 main battle tank is 41.5 miles per hour. The top speed of the latest armored personnel carrier is also 41 miles per hour.

This information is so irrelevant here, Dan. Do you seriously think they'll ever have a chance to move at the top speed?

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Gatekeeper
It would be interesting if some form of democracy and representative government came to Iraq, only to see it become a radical fundamentalist regime via the ballot box. Heh. Algeria had that problem, no?

Gatekeeper

Turkey didn't -- and Iraq is closer, geographically and culturally. Let's hope.

[The Mad Monk]

Re: Re: How Long Will Gulf War II Last?

Originally posted by The Vagabond


This information is so irrelevant here, Dan. Do you seriously think they'll ever have a chance to move at the top speed?

You're right, of course. They have to register all the prisoners.

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


Of course, they're not going to immediately invade, in the presense of US troops.

well then, my post is irrelavent. I misunderstood you as saying somethn along the lines of the US could not handle a Iranian/Turkish invasion ...

But for what you said, despite the misunderstanding, i partially agree, but not entirely. Iran could do those things, but it is all speculation even if with seemingly good evidence.

See, Iran, as we all know, has a well known nuclear weapons developement program... thats a no no for obvious reasons. If they dont cut it out in the next few years years or so, the US will have a nice new 300 mile (or somethn like that) border with Iran that would surely be helpful in dealing with them The wisdom of this is unkown to me at this time, but it is certainly a possibility. If Iran gets nukes...... *shivers* I dunno if i would like the alternative tho.

Kman

[Ramo]

But for what you said, despite the misunderstanding, i partially agree, but not entirely. Iran could do those things, but it is all speculation even if with seemingly good evidence.

It isn't just speculation. Iran is already funding an anti-Saddam Shia group in Northern Iraq. It even tried to push its own candidate for the Afghan leadership role, but eventually baced off.

I bet Ayatollah Khameini would love to see an American invasion, because that's precisely what would be in his best interests. He'd have a good shot at making Iraq an Iranian ally or even satellite as well as crushing Iran's reform movement.

[S. Kroeze]

Which sillies thought that this war would be over after ONE week?

This is a charming thread: it perfectly illustrates how gullible the general public is, how easily Rumsfield pulled the wool over their eyes. How uncritical the American media repeat the mirages of this administration. And how unreliable and incompetent the administration is.

For the record: I had voted for longer than two months. Unfortunately it was not possible to select a longer duration. Presently I think it will last longer than three months.
There were far too few different options when the Poll was made.

What a pity there was no Poll about the way the British and Yankees would be received: with flowers, with bananas, with ounces of lead or with weeping and the grinding of teeth...

[Ted Striker]

I don't think Rumsfeld ever claimed to anyone that this would be over in a week...

[GePap]

An earlier post by someone states that Rummy at one point said that he expected 70% of Iraq to be in coolition hands by the end of week 1.

The fact is that the admin. (if not the brass) made such pronouncements as to make it very sensible to think this war would be over in one week. It is important to remeber how the stock market shot up about 8% in one week when the war begun, and oil prices collapsed, because traders thought by friday that the war would be oevr come the next Monday. If all of Wall Street and th oil amrkets expected an incredibly short war, why is main street wrong to have thought the same?

[Ted Striker]

But most of Iraq is in coalition hands.

[DanS]

it perfectly illustrates how gullible the general public is, how easily Rumsfield pulled the wool over their eyes. How uncritical the American media repeat the mirages of this administration. And how unreliable and incompetent the administration is.

Please note that right now, only 17% polled are now proven to be overoptimistic. Apparently, we are all much less gullible than you imagine. So stuff it.

For the record, and to minimize any impact of late voting, the results are:

1-3 Days: 3.85%
4-6 Days: 7.69%
1-2 Weeks: 16.67%
2 Weeks-1 Month: 23.08%
1 Month-2 Months: 19.23%
2 Months +: 23.08%
Hussein gives up: 6.41%

[GePap]

Even Fox news yesterday said 40% of Iraq in in Coolition hands. again, this was Fox News, the "kill them all" channel.

[Ted Striker]

Well, whatever the percentage is, there are several coalition units 50-60 miles outside of Baghdad. I'd say the progress is going well.

[SlowwHand]

Short-sighted question.

More importantly, "How long will the war on terrorism last?".
I'll say it will take 20 years.
People in a panic over 10 days are in for a rough life.

[Dinner]

For the record I'd like to point out that I voted several weeks ago for 1-2 months. I believe I made a post on page one and several people told me I was crazy to think the war would last that long.

I'm still of the same opinion. 1-2 months before the last of the regular & irregular units are rooted out. I arrived at that figure by taking the government's estimate and doubling it; this worked well for Kosovo so I suspected it would work well for Iraq.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Well, Paiktis is posting so the war must be over. Did we win?