More anti-French idiocy

[KrazyHorse]

This just in: the 50 000 or so uniformed Canadians who died in France last century will be staying right where they are.

And we're not going to engage in trading the memory of brave men from 2 or 3 generations ago for cheap political points.

[Ted Striker]

That's great Frogger.

Do you want a first place award or something?

[KrazyHorse]

No, I want some of you to get off your high horse. A lot of countries sacrificed a lot more than you did in the two world wars.

[KrazyHorse]

I also want to know what this says about WWII vets who don't support the war (of which there are a whole heap)...

[Sikander]

Originally posted by GePap
Most absurd proposition yet.. no, EVER.

Hope she gets bad press for such a stupid thing. Also, it is interesting that the Germans were the first to oppose war, and in terms of their position, the most staunch..n calls yet to boycott Becks, chnage the names of things like German Chocolate Cake, or a boycott on sauernbraten and Oktoberfest.... well, not that interesting..French bashing is an old thing in the US.

I think a large part of the reason that people in the U.S. are hating France more than Germany is that the Germans have been pretty damned consistent in their position, and haven't vowed to veto any resolution that brings American troops out of the desert within their current term of enlistment. France is seen as having changed their position significantly, and as having ambushed the U.S. To a large extent these views are fairly accurate. Germany may well wish the U.S. as ill as France does, but they are perceived as doing so much more from a position of principal rather than opportunism.

The French foreign minister (Vile..something) was interviewed here last week. He agreed that if the U.S. hadn't built up its troop strength and seriously threatened Baghdad that there would have been no disarmament at all. He also stated that French policy supported the disarmament of Iraq, and that France would veto any resolution that mentioned force. So the U.N. is hopping around on one leg trying to get Iraq to disarm, and France is insistent on kicking that last leg out while trumpeting its commitment to the U.N. remaining upright. At least he was willing to state (if not admit) that France's policy was a bunch of contradictory sound bites. The worst thing he said was the reason that France was trying to stop the war was that they didn't want any American boys to get killed (to a U.S. audience of course). What an insult! France is purposefully delaying the war, which for many reasons is going to increase the war's cost in lives on both sides. U.S. forces lose readiness, suffer heat casualties, training casualties etc. while Iraq digs in and France drags her feet while mouthing platitudes about its love for Americans.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Frogger
No, I want some of you to get off your high horse. A lot of countries sacrificed a lot more than you did in the two world wars.

Who's on their high horse besides you (and Paiktis)? Did anyone here support the disinterment (and don't mention anyone stupid, they don't count)?

[KrazyHorse]

If you think the disinterment per se is the cruxx of the matter then you've got to rethink it.

The problem is this attitude that the French owe you political favours because of WWII.

And that attitude has been demonstrated multiple times in this thread and others.

[Q Classic]

French didn't need it eh?
The Soviets didn't seek UN approval for Hungary, Czechoslovakia, or Aghanistan.
The Chinese didn't seek UN support for Korea.
In fact, until Desert Storm, NOBODY ever sought UN approval for war.

wrong, lancer.
the korean war was the first time a war was fought under the UN banner.
after the nkoreans invaded skorea, the united states brought the matter to the UNSC; the USSR, in a fit of pique, did not show up to the SC that day.
the resolution enabling the US to organize a UN-backed resistance army was mainly due to that conspicuous absence.

red china, which invaded korea when it became evident that combined UN might was beating back communist aggression, was not a member of the UN at the time. China's seat on the UNSC belonged not to Mao's China, but to the Republic of China under Chiang Kai-shek.

[Q Classic]

pardon my freedom, but i think this entire trend in our country to bash freedom is fvcking stupid.

we all know that the freedom are a bunch of nutjob loons, but we're only encouraging their irritating snootiness by being complete retards ourselves.

[Dis]

what a great way to respect the dead.

Actually I don't think they should have been buried over there in the first place. But it's too late for that now

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Frogger
If you think the disinterment per se is the cruxx of the matter then you've got to rethink it.

The problem is this attitude that the French owe you political favours because of WWII.

And that attitude has been demonstrated multiple times in this thread and others.

Ahh, so you're talking about the photos of the graveyards etc. I personally don't feel that the French owe us anything, and further feel that they have every right to run their foreign policy as they see fit. I merely object to their policies and the stated "reasoning" behind them. But you obviously weren't aiming those comments at me. D'accord.

[KrazyHorse]

NP

[Wernazuma III]

Originally posted by Azazel
I wonder if the "Statue of Liberty" was once called the Statue of France.

If the Statue of Liberty has been renamed, then it must have been a confusion by someone who thought the Statue was German. For while French translates to Freedom, German translates to Liberty. During WWI, Sauerkraut was Liberty Cabbage and Hamburger were Liberty Steaks...

[Chemical Ollie]

This pic is kinda old, but it has gotten a new meaning, hasn't it?

[Richelieu]

Originally posted by Lancer
Richelieu, having some French wine?

That's freedom wine for you !