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Ok, and so that validates that the U.S. should have U.N. approval from France, how?
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Actually, this sort of idiocy (the whole anti-French thing) is going to do more to undermine US efforts to build and maintain alliances anywhere in the world. The notion that an "ally" has to be a poodle and support US policy without exception, or be subject to economic and other retaliation is going to make it real tough to sell the concept of alliance when the big ol' Rambo USA actually finds it needs voluntary cooperation from another country.Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
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France is your role model all of a sudden?Originally posted by Lancer
France didn't seek UN approval for Vietnam or Algeria.Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse
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They didn't need to, as those countries were former colonies with bilateral treaty arrangements between the lackey governments and the French.Originally posted by Lancer
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irrelevant--Originally posted by Lancer
France didn't seek UN approval for Vietnam or Algeria.
The US decided to try this UN path-- The fact that FRance should have done so with respect to some past act does not obligate them to approve a current act. IN the end it looks like the US will fail to get approval and will likely act anyway.
If you are going to have a United Nations, the members must have some freedom to vote as they see fit and not be hamstrung by actions of the past. I don't necessarily know that France's position is well founded but I think they have every right to take a position contrary to the AmericansYou don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto LuongoComment
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French didn't need it eh?
The Soviets didn't seek UN approval for Hungary, Czechoslovakia, or Aghanistan.
The Chinese didn't seek UN support for Korea.
In fact, until Desert Storm, NOBODY ever sought UN approval for war.Long time member @ Apolyton
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Slowwhand, exactly.Long time member @ Apolyton
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Not only france as a role model, but the USSR and China, too?Originally posted by Lancer
French didn't need it eh?
The Soviets didn't seek UN approval for Hungary, Czechoslovakia, or Aghanistan.
The Chinese didn't seek UN support for Korea.
In fact, until Desert Storm, NOBODY ever sought UN approval for war.
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I'm going to have to remind you of America going into Korea.Originally posted by Lancer
In fact, until Desert Storm, NOBODY ever sought UN approval for war.John Brown did nothing wrong.Comment
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Didn't we go first and talk later?Long time member @ Apolyton
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That's because nobody used to bother to pretend there was any legitimacy to their actions - they were content to be power-grabbing thugs who wiped their asses with international law.Originally posted by Lancer
French didn't need it eh?
The Soviets didn't seek UN approval for Hungary, Czechoslovakia, or Aghanistan.
The Chinese didn't seek UN support for Korea.
In fact, until Desert Storm, NOBODY ever sought UN approval for war.
Are you sure those are the sorts of examples you want to cite as support for your position?
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We were technically already there, although the senior advisor in country was just a long-service O-3.Originally posted by Lancer
Didn't we go first and talk later?
We then fed in speed bumps like TF Smith to be slaughtered while we scraped up a rather pathetic excuse for an army and stuffed it over there. (Thank God for the USMC that time.) The UN stuff started after the invasion, simply because our good commie friends didn't call ahead and give us a warning.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."Comment
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Revolting. Sickening.What?Comment
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My position is that the US is the only one that doesn't "wipe their ass with international law". Now it seems that the special interests of the French is more important than backing resolutions upon which the French agreed!
So, unless the French interests are to determine international law, then the US and our allies will act without it. "International law", in the form of the UN, is, imo, corrupted.Long time member @ Apolyton
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Richelieu, having some French wine?
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