Americas end as global leader? FICTIONAL

[srholmes]

Originally posted by Spectator
Cuz the U.S. saved their ass. They begged and begged the U.s. to join the war and churchill was pissing all over him self.
They dont make bombers no more, long range missiles are within 2 feet of accuracy and costs a lot less than a bomber.

i thing the russians had more impact as a result of germany having to fight on two fronts

[Menlas]

Originally posted by Rothy
Look at the Force we're ready to send to the gulf, that alone would wipe out France and Germany combined.

Riiiight

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by DinoDoc

China doesn't even have the naval assest needed to invade Taiwan. I think we can safely ignore any soldiers China might have in this scenario.

unless the ruskies, frogs, or krauts give the chinks boats

hey, this is a fictional global war, rascism is allowed

[Nubclear]

15,000? Or is it still 20,000?

Nuclear proliferation is a very bad thing....

[Worthingtons]

Ok then Menlas, care to find some informaton on the french Military?? someone just said in this thread you only have One Carrier ..

[Velociryx]

Remember, the question was, could the proposed alliance take America....this presumes then, that America would have the defensive position (ie - we don't need to come to you....you have to come to us) and good luck....

-=Vel=-

EDIT: And good luck making it past one of our 7(?) active Carrier Groups....not to mention the others we'll be pulling out of mothball....along with the Iowas....

-V.

[Jaguar]

The US has 11 servicable carriers. France has 1, but I think they're trying to acquire a second. Germany has 0. The US has 8000 Tanks in service right now; that is approximately 3 times the number of German and French tanks put together. And ours are newer for the most part. .

This theoretical war could not be won against the US. China and the three European countries aren't on the same coast. Thus the Europeans aren't able to hold a beachhead, and the Chinese aren't be able to create one. Hence failed attempts at amphibious landings would last until one side or the other eventually gets pissed off and lobs 15,000 nukes. The other counterattacks, and the war continues between Alaska and Siberia, the only undamaged places in either alliance left.

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by Spectator
But chineese soldiers can be parachuted from german or french planes, dropped by french boats and both ways with the russians. China has the men and the other countries have the thecs.
As for china invading taiwan, they have so many men that they could drop by with yats and still win.
Imagine 50000 yats with 10 men abord each of them, taiwan has no chance in hell.

Considering your hypothetical situation involving parachutists, have you heard of Crete 1941?
Mind you, that was with a crack group of well-trained individuals. Try putting 4 million Chinese on planes (assuming you could ever get that many planes, which is impossible), and see how organized and effective they are after landing. I'll give you a hint. There's no chance of it.

And again, you do realize how many times more massive the US Navy is than those 4 powers combined?
To be honest, it's quite scary.

[Tattila the Hun]

Consider the fact, that you only need one cruise missile to take out any naval vessel, and it should even the ods on naval warfare.

[Skanky Burns]

But which country has the largest stockpile of cruise missiles, and an industry that can pump more out faster than the others?

[Tattila the Hun]

Ah, but the fact that the US might have 1000-1 stockpile of missiles, doesn't stop that one missile from sinking that carrier.

[Spec]

Originally posted by Rothy
Firstly, England withstood years of German Assault without cracking and without US assistance. We'd soaked up the pressure and were starting our counter attack when the US entered. I think most Historians would agree that America NOT entering WW2 would have meant a prolonged route to victory (for england) or a stalemate, England simply woudnt have lost.

Ask any historian, you would have lost the war.

Secondly do you think the UK would stand by and let our good friends in America suffer?? Look at the Force we're ready to send to the gulf, that alone would wipe out France and Germany combined.

HA!! Keep dreaming. Germany can wipe you out in a month or so.

Thirdly, how many countries would sell thier values for some good American Dollars?? America has so much Wealth it could buy a whole heap of Powers, who do you think Japan would ally with? Thier rich neighbours of America, or this supposed Alliance and be the first to have thier arses kicked!

First, America is the country with the largest debt, germany is the richest country in the world. Second, Japan is not allowed to have an army.

On a Final point, while economically those powers suggested might add up to something, Military speaking the only country there of any note is Russia, who are light years behind the US.

You really dont know sqwat about history or even actual military events. I'd be more afraid of germany than Russia and russia is FAR from being light years away from americans, they are way ahead of the Brits and a couple of blocks behind the States.



Spec.

[Edan]

Re: Americas end as global leader? FICTIONAL

Originally posted by Spectator

Let's say that France, Germany, Russia and China declare war on the U.S. would they be able to win? Do you think america would resist?

The cockroachs. And maybe the penguins.

I will make ready to serve our new penguin overlords.

[Demerzel]

Originally posted by Spectator
HA!! Keep dreaming. Germany can wipe you out in a month or so.

I think you're the one dreaming here, wipe us out in a month? We're not cavemen running around with jawbones...

[Spec]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns
But which country has the largest stockpile of cruise missiles, and an industry that can pump more out faster than the others?

Germany and russia.....of course with the U.S..